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Faceplant
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Posted: August-28-2014 at 12:59am |
Tried searching to no avail to see if there is a difference . Is the 2001 model hull the same as the barefoot hull ? Iv'e been searching for a 87 - 89 2001 model mainly for wakeboarding but also slaloming . Came across a couple of barefoots . I know that most barefoots had 454 as opposed to the 351 engines ( I actually would prefer the 351 myself ) . Realize that the 454 would be heavier which would be added ballast but other than that , is there much difference ?
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ncdoubleup
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I can only speak from my experience of owning both a SN with a 351 and a BN with a 454, but there is alot more difference than just weight when speaking of just the engine. The 454 will smoke the 351! But having said that, we have a 1990 Barefoot now with a 454 and the wake for wakeboarding with no weight and only a few people is really quite impressive. We've yet to weigh it down, so I don't know how big it could really get. Running at 35 - 37 the wake for slalom skiing looks like it would be pretty decent. I don't slalom myself, but it's good for crossing while barefooting. A very good question on the hulls, from what I understand they are very similar, if not the same, but that would be a question for experts other than myself. :)Hopefully they will chime in here. I'd love to know the answer myself. I know there are several on here that have the 2001 and they seem to be great for pretty much everything.
If you get a chance to ride in a BN with a 454, I'm sure you'll like it. What you won't like it the fuel mileage. It really sucks! Unless you plan on pulling 6 barefooters at a time, the 351 should do well. |
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Frankenotter
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Totally different hulls. The BArefoot Nautique is NOT a good slalom wake. It doesn't handle anything like the SN hull and from what others say, the wake is not the greatest for wakeboarding.
It sounds like for your purpose, the standard SN 2001 hull would be the best. You can load it with ballast to wakeboard or keep it natural to slalom. |
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Orlando76
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Actually there's quite a difference bt the 2001 and the BFN. The BFN is a vee hull, slightly wider too I believe. The stock 454 BFN's I've seen were far from impressive IMHO. I've raced 2 bfn 2 diff times with 2 2nd gen SN and both times the lil guys won. The slalom wake will be better on the 2001, like mentioned before, BFN wake isn't bad but that's at footin speeds, back it to 32-36 and it's gonna grow.
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TRBenj
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Despite some familial similarities on the deck and interior, the hulls of these 2 boats are about as different as 2 similar sized boats can get. They share nothing in terms of skiing performance.
We love our bfn but it has a very limited application, IMHO. Great barefoot table, smooth in rough water and fast in a straight line... Those are about the only things it does well compared to a SN. Handling is far better in the SN, as are the wakes for just about every skiing discipline short of barefooting- the bfn throws a large wake with a big flat table, but the ramp and lip are not well suited for lower speed watersports like wake and trick, IMHO. The SN is a superior all around boat. This has been discussed at length several times, so search out those threads and you'll see some wake and hull pictures. |
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tullfooter
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I finally rode my slalom ski behind my BFN. Not an easy wake cross when laying it down. It's one of the worst wakes I've crossed while slalom skiing. Barefooting; it's great, especially if the water conditions aren't perfect. Contrary to what Tim said, there is another thing the 454 BFN does well; pull away from the dock. The sound is boss.
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oldcuda
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So a 2001 hull with a big block that's what I've been thinking.E mailed the owner on the Brown one in Ga but no response think it's gone now said needs motor.Have a BB in garage w/72c all ready for a new home
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TRBenj
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I disagree... In terms of holeshot, if propped appropriately, a SN with 351w will come out of the hole almost dead even with a BFN with a 454... The bigger prop required to keep the big blocks revs in check up top slows it down out of the hole to the point where they perform similarly. Of course the big block gives you almost a 5mph advantage up top. If propped the same, the big block is quicker (but won't still have the full 5mph advantage up top). As far as sound goes, stock vs. stock, with 3" outlets, mufflers and compression in the mid 8's, there is not a big difference in tone between the 2. The small ford may actually sound better! Adding compression, metal in the exhaust, elimination of mufflers, increasing hose/outlet size changes the game though. |
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Faceplant
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THANK YOU . Will keep my eyes open for a 2001 model then .
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DMH
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