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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

These pissing matches are entertaining.


Kinda reminds me of the Pinto Races. BKH
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entertaining is an understatement.
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don't be knocking pintos. my first car was a 77 pinto station wagon.
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Originally posted by 85nautiquematt 85nautiquematt wrote:

Of course I'll let it roll. Some of you are running some good HP, do you have a full length baffle at the crankshaft so in the upper R's your not pulling oil "rope effect" into the crank and slowing it down. There's some free power right there. My background is mainly with Pontiac engines and I don't know the secrets to enhancing Ford power. It can be similar in theory though. It's cool you guys head up the Green Lake - I'll see you there next year - I'm 45 minutes away and just bought a 85 Nautique 4 weeks ago. Had a 84 Nautique growing up on Okachee Lake for 15 years Have you guys run your boats against a Malibu Response yet ? Can they beat a Response in a drag?
Can they beat a Response in a drag?

Maybe a Response, but I doubt a Sportster.
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Steadie Eddie's Python BFN will golden shower all of you.
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No knock on Pintos.

Racing Pintos - Racing Competition Ski boats.

Racing is racing. Knock yourself out and have fun with it. But at the end of the day, a Pinto is a Pinto and a Ski Boat is a Ski boat.

Don't take yourself too seriously BKH
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Building ski boats is kind like back in the day when guys would spend big bucks stroking their Harleys so the could keep up with 650 Kawasakis.

But it's still fun. Ski boats are like old muscle cars.
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At the next reunion in Green Lake, I'll bring a Malibu Response out there for you guys to pick on. I'll have my brother drive it- we went in halves on the thing. I'd like to see how the Malibu holds up to those built Correct Crafts. My 85 Nautique is stock so it won't hold a candle. Besides and with my wife and three little squirts in the boat it's gotta run smooth. I'm very impressed with the Response -it's just not a classic.
Nothin like the sound of a mid 80's Nautique at mid throttle.
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85,there are a lot of boats that are faster, bigger, smoother, but if you bring the Malibu,you ain't got a dog in the hunt.
If you want to play our game , you have to play by our rules.This evens out the playing field somewhat, CC's only!!!!!!
Put the wife and kids in that Malibu,and bring it on. We need some new meat on the table.
That gives me time to find that extra top end I am looking for,Reid I am ,I can ,I will...........boat dr
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boat dr, take note- I just bought the Correct Craft after a few years away from them. The Malibu is great but just didn't cut it. Besides my bro and I sharing a boat was getting difficult with me having kids. I think you know where my loyalty is at. My kids, wife and me have been out in the Nautique three times in four weeks. Also. note I said my brother would be driving.. I drive CORRECT CRAFTS. Either way - it will be fun to see.
Nothin like the sound of a mid 80's Nautique at mid throttle.
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They were not monsters out of the hole, with some more grunt than a 351 but not rediculously so. Without a skier load a well tuned 351 could beat it to 30 mph by a little, but not with three deep barefooters.
The std 330 hp 454 would shine in thos conditions, till you needed 40+ mph.

Mash it at 40 mph (where a 351 or std 454 wheeze) and you would feel it hard in your back and 50 came real fast as the revs solidly go past 5K on the way to 54-5500.

Thee or four abreast footers could maintain 43 mph and still have some throttle left in reserve.

They were cammed for mid-top with very large rectangular ports and big valves (canted of course).

They could sing at 5K for 20 minutes straight for a long barefoot run, and do that for decades. One has 1500 hours and is still tight. One was further built and had straight 4" pipes, others were mufflered. 850cms DP, never saw the bottom end can't comment on the hardware but I'm sure its stout stuff.

The boats behaved at those speed when the conditions were good, but not when the water was irregular

However, a Sanger DX11 with a 330hp smallblock merc is really hard to beat as far as speed/hp and excellent wakes.
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GottaSki, Thank you sir...does anyone know if it was documented? repair manual?
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They were not monsters out of the hole, with some more grunt than a 351 but not rediculously so. Without a skier load a well tuned 351 could beat it to 30 mph by a little, but not with three deep barefooters.
The std 330 hp 454 would shine in thos conditions, till you needed 40+ mph.

Mash it at 40 mph (where a 351 or std and you would feel it hard in your back and 50 came real fast as the revs solidly go past 5K on the way to 54-5500.

Thee or four abreast footers could maintain 43 mph and still have some throttle left in reserve.

They were cammed for mid-top with very large rectangular ports and big valves (canted of course).

They could sing at 5K for 20 minutes straight for a long barefoot run, and do that for decades. One has 1500 hours and is still tight. One was further built and had straight 4" pipes, others were mufflered. 850cms DP, never saw the bottom end can't comment on the hardware but I'm sure its stout stuff.

The boats behaved at those speed when the conditions were good, but not when the water was irregular.

In the quote above which motor and which boat were you talking about here?
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Hollywood,
Did I miss a post somehwere who has a python in a BFN?
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BFN pylon I think...
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"454HP" LH 425hp Pleasurecraft available in a BFN or undocumanted in 2001s. saw one in a powerslot once also.
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Steadie Eddie's Python BFN will golden shower all of you.

This is what I was asking about...

GottaSki

Do you know the reason that the 454 HO were LH rotation.. The 72c trans you spoke of do you have any info on it, was there anything special about it, or did it just allow the use a LH rotation motor. Do you know if these trans can still be baught?? Sorry about so many questions, but it seems you are the only one with first hand experience with this set up.
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72C are longer and even sturdier, 5" output flange., 2-disk reverse and 7-disk forward. Eric may correct the specifics.

I think GM and Pleasurecraft pulled a henry ford and said to CC you can have any rotation you want as long as its LH, because I think its so low volume and GM didn't want to entertain changing a developed and tested assembly, becuase if they fragged, GM would eventualy have to eat the cost, ; as long they were used with the spec'd operating range.
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So if someone were to come up with a 72C trans then you could put an automotive build motor in and add the required marine parts as need then, or am I wrong on that... You also mentioned the trans was longer, so this would change the length of the prop shaft would it not?

Eric,

Now for your turn is it possible to find one of these trans, or to make this trans?
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[QUOTE=87BFN owner] Hollwood wrote
Steadie Eddie's Python BFN will golden shower all of you.

This is what I was asking about...
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Jim you have to look at the post about the mini reunion in NC at Reid's place. Barefoot Eddie sounds like a neighbor of Reid's that has a Python installed in a BFN.

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Thanks backfoot I have not looked at that post in awhile...
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87BFN: the 72C Borgwarner tranny for torquier engines as Big blocks and big diesel engines.



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Luchog

Thank you for that wonderful piece of info.. Sounds like this trans can still be found than.

The 10-18 is just under an inch longer then the 10-17 which I have.
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72 has 3 reverses, you guys couldnt build an engine to blow up one of my modified 71's, had to rattle some chains....
I can squeeze 7 and 6 plates into a 71, and the 72 and even 73 series are out there for the larger props and more torque. the BB use's them for extra insurance depending on application, i see alot of 71"s behind big blocks. the TRS set up uses the same number of plates as the 71 which is 5 frictions and 4 steels. the 72 does use larger planets and a larger input shaft and drum,and the bearing in the rear is a larger max bearing. the plate number is not the only difference
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those graphs are generalizations, they dont factor alot of things in such as prop size, plate material, boat size, the biggest thing to worry about is prop size, if your spinning a 20" prop and slam it into reverse something is going to break, with the smaller prop sizes on a ski boat it is not as big of a concern
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anymore if your curious about rotations, ZF and BW make whats called a full power forward and full power reverse, if im being redundent let me know, all the newer boats are using these transmissions you can use normal rotation engines and spin the trans either way for forward with out damage to the trans
the zf 450 and 630 are some of the models, also bord warner makes the 5000 series which also can spin either direction. these trannies are available in straight and down angle and come with a offset
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Eric, if I read that right...what I would call the regular BW's(10-17 & 10-18) can't be turned around?
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