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    Posted: February-10-2010 at 9:51pm
Hey Guys. Just wanted to let you know that this thread and the ones referenced herein have been a great help. I recently purchased a 1973 Correct Craft Martinique, and am planning on replacing the stringers and floors after this coming season. Thanks!
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I have not seen any change in handling of the BFN since the old foam was removed and the new foma installed. With the exception that it does sit higher in the water.
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it depends on the insurance coverage i have too...
Im on lake Erie but really wouldnt take a ski boat on it, i would stay in the rivers or on small lakes and always in site of other boaters, we stuffed some race boats years ago and without the foam i guess they would go to the bottem, i guess it is personal preference.
most times when you remove the foam it is soaked and when you re-foam you are comparing it to a previously soaked boat with all the extra weight it may feel more solid, with new foam the boat is much lighter and maybe a little less stable because of the lack of water weight
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The only reason why I wanted to put the foam back in, other than flotation of coarse, was I remember Skibum saying how much more solid the boat felt after he put the foam in.I have heard this from others as well. I have such a lack of storage in the boat that I wanted to add some small compartment under the floor where the foam used to be but the boat was bad about pounding in choppy water before and I certainly don't want to make that worse.
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Well against my better judgement, I have been 3 miles out in the gulf with this boat. Does that classify it as an ocean going vessel now?
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Pete im with you on the foaming thing, but some prefer it, in the long run it does more damage than good, would i re-foam my own boat? no i wouldnt. if it was an ocean going vessel, yes i would,
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Careful with the type of peanuts!! The new "green" ones are made from corn starch and dissolve in water. Just don't foam!


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80, you can also take the cut-offs and put them in the next compartment and foam over them, you can also mix in peanuts (not Planter's) if your on a budget, start with the peanuts closest to the hull because of thier shapes it will allow some air and also water to drain
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Andy, Yes the stringers have been replaced. Also, the boat was not re foamed in the bilge. I really can't say that is any louder ether. There are a couple threads on foaming or not to re foam. I'll do a search and see if I can find them.


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Just curious 8122, have you had to replace the stringers or floor in your Tique? Thanks for all the info.
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Andy, Do some measuring and see if you can calculate the cu, ft. needed. I know the guys who have used the pour foam have needed lots more due to all the waste. keep in mind, that 2lb dencity foam will displace about 60lbs per cu. ft. or 5lbs per board foot so a 300 board foot kit (1500lbs displacment) may do it.

Since you used the polyester, I would give the bilge a coat of epoxy. You could also add a pigment to it and use it as the finish coat.


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I also purchased most of my materials for the fiberglass work before I saw Ski Bum's restore. I bought and cannot return matting, resin, hardener and such for polyester resin. If I paint or gelcoat over it will it seal the moisture out? I have always used the polyester stuff, I had no idea it absorbed moisture until reading ski bum's post. Will I be o.k. using this because I don't have the money right now to replace all of it with epoxy based components?
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Thanks guys, any idea of how many cubic feet it will take to replace what was there? I plan to replace all the floor and foam.
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Originally posted by Barracuda Barracuda wrote:

80 tique- I bought a bunch of pourable foam from this place
It was not for a CC, but you might find it helpful.
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I haven't used the pourable foam in years. It always seems to be a big mess and hard to calculate needed amounts. I have used a fair amount of this spray 2 component. It comes with 2 types of disposable nozzles. A fan spray and a cavity injection. The cavity injection nozzle is made so a extension tube (poly 1/4" ID) can be put on the end for real deep and hard to reach areas.

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I believe that Ski Bum bought all his materials from US Composites. DavidF has also recomended them. FWIW. BKH
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I used Fiberglass coatings out of St. Pete, they gave me a reasonable discount.
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80 tique- I bought a bunch of pourable foam from this place
It was not for a CC, but you might find it helpful.
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Where is a good place to get the pourable foam for doing under the floor? How much does it cost and how much would I need to do the floor in a '80 model Ski Tique? I know West Marine sells it in small quanities but $100 bucks for enough to cover 2 cubic feet seems high. Any ideas?
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Originally posted by 80ski-tige 80ski-tige wrote:

Right you are TRBenji, I am a dufus. I did sign up and post that half asleep but still can't believe I mispelled my own boat! Twice! Jeez, I'm really slipping!

Well, 3 times if you count your profile! If it were me, Id sign up with a new (and not misspelled) username
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Right you are TRBenji, I am a dufus. I did sign up and post that half asleep but still can't believe I mispelled my own boat! Twice! Jeez, I'm really slipping!

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Originally posted by 80ski-tige 80ski-tige wrote:

My '80 Ski Tige

Im pretty sure Tige didnt come about until the early 90's. If your boat is a Correct Craft, then you have a Ski Tique!
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Hats off to SkiBum, you have more dedication and will than me. My '80 Ski Tige could benefit from the overhaul you performed but I don't know that it is bad enough to need everything you did to yours. Maybe I'm just hoping to not have to do all of that work. I thank you for all the pictures and information though, as I'm sure I'll be doing most of the replacement. I see I didn't buy near enough resin though, only 2 gallons,oops!

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dave, how ya doin' buddy.The last time I was in that boat I had some assistance from Mr. B. If you can negotiate the deed to go down with the crew we had a G/Lake I am a go.
But we will have to do it in La. That climate ain't for this redneck.I have a buddy of mine Grouse hunting just north of Green Lake as we speak,too cold for me..........


Hahaha, whats the matter with a little freezing rain there Doc??? OK, I'll send her down on a flatbed and a case of beer. Have her ready anytime before Spring.. Oh and could ya fix that Carb while you're at it??? Thanks there Pal !!!!

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Boat doc, im thinking about doin some bird hunting myself,
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dave, how ya doin' buddy.The last time I was in that boat I had some assistance from Mr. B. If you can negotiate the deed to go down with the crew we had a G/Lake I am a go.
But we will have to do it in La. That climate ain't for this redneck.I have a buddy of mine Grouse hunting just north of Green Lake as we speak,too cold for me..........
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Hey Doc,
Anytime you feel like doing another, let me know.. My 76' won't be doing anything all winter

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Pete,with your guidance and little tid bits of knowledge this job will be complete by Thanksgiving......
Everyone needs to do ONE stringer job.............
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Rob, Without any templates, you will need to "scribe" the stringers to match the hull contour. Place the uncut stringer (cut to length) in the boat level to the final position you want it. Take a cheap children's compass and open it up to the widest gap between the bottom of the new stringer and the hull. determine that this dimension will drop the stringer to the proper height after cutting and if not add the difference to the compass setting. Keep the stringer propped up in the boat and temporarily clamped. Pull the compass down the full length of the stringer with the point on the hull and the pencil on the wood. You will now have the exact shape of the hull transfered to the bottom of the new stringer. Set the saw you are using to match the side to side angle of the hull and start cutting! Some fitting and even re scribing may be needed because the hull angle does change.


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even if you don't put that epoxy mat down underneath the stringer it's not a big deal if you mixed the filler in the right quantities. I talked to the west system guys and they said it's not necessary. I just got done rebuilding my floor. Whatever you come up with will be better. I had a 3ft strip of stringer left on one side and the rest was dirt. The boat did fine like that for a couple years as far as i can guess. I would give you my templates but I did so much sanding and cutting from those that I don't think they'd be much good.
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SkiBum,

do you still have the templates for the stringers you replaced?
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