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Originally posted by jterr jterr wrote:

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For now just wanted to crank engine to check out rebuilt carb. I'll get my neighbor over he understands the ohm thing.
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An alternate to resistance is to check voltage in and out of the ballast resistor.

If you get your neighbor over, have him give you some pointers on using the VOM. Voltage and resistance testing is a great method of troubleshooting problems. If you don't have a VOM, I suggest getting one. A basic one is around $20 plus you can use it on the car and even the house.


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Now I'm really cornfused.

I have the MSD coil and directions say to add a 0.8 ohm resister. I read up on the electronic ignition conversion kit and it says to use a 1.4 ohm ballast resister.
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The ignition tech said the MSD wouldn't work with there conversion so I guess I need to just go get a standard coil.
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Hey All,
Need a pic of how the coil is mounted on engine 83 PCM. Actually the mount also. I checked my 79 but it is on the opposite side, manifolds don't look the same.
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Never mind the pic I made a mount.
Next question---
Where can I get the Alt.& RWP belt replacements? Shipping is twice as much as the belts, surely they can be bought at a parts place....
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These are the Dayco numbers from my 80's vintage PCM 15400 (11A1015) and 15455 (11A1155). Don't know which one is which but maybe you can cross reference them to any belt at a parts store. If you can wait til sometime tomorrow I can uncover it and maybe see which belt goes to what and the alternator pulley diameter to see if your new one is the same size.
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Got it and got them.
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Here we go again with the dumb questions...
I ordered a set of Sierra Marine plug wires and didn't think about the distributor end. Anyhow I have to return and the customer service said all they have is non marine. Is there a difference in marine and standard plug wires?









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I am not aware of any Marine special plug wires. I always buy high quality wires.
Napa sells Powerpath, used to be made by Belden Wire. Very good wires.
Standard ignition purchased Belden so a premium Standard Ignition set would be high quality also. These would offer long life, great spark transfer and limit any sparks emitting from the wires to a ground which could be very bad in a boat situation with a covered engine.
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The only marine thing I can think of is that with the marine exhausts in place the normal method of running the wires from the distributor over the valve covers to the plugs are blocked. PCM chose to use longer wires and running them down in front of the valve covers then up to the plugs. So a set for a car or truck might not be long enough. You could then make your own or just buy a set ready to plug and play. link
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I found a set of marine wires at Summit Racing-www.summitracing.com/parts/rra-18-8842-1
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Originally posted by jterr jterr wrote:

I found a set of marine wires at Summit Racing-www.summitracing.com/parts/rra-18-8842-1

John,
My concern was the same as Gary's with the set being too short but, per the comment in the listing, someone has used them by routing under the manifolds.


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Ya'll run out of paint yet? I know its still too cold to spray paint up north that lacquer you guys like
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Here is another non paint question
When I removed all the spark plug wires from engine forgot to mark (actually I did, but it faded-duh).
Will they be the same as on my 79 351?
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Originally posted by jterr jterr wrote:

Here is another non paint question
When I removed all the spark plug wires from engine forgot to mark (actually I did, but it faded-duh).
Will they be the same as on my 79 351?


If you're asking if the firing order is the same, it is but...............you need to determine which terminal on the cap is #1 by finding where the rotor is pointing when #1 cylinder is at top dead center on the compression stroke (you may have to rotate the body so that the rotor lines up with a terminal) and that will be the #1 plug wire , then you go Counter clockwise around the cap with the reverse rotation firing order 1 8 4 5 6 2 7 3

You'll need to check and adjust the timing after it's running.

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Thanks I just about got the wiring harness rebuilt and new alternator should be here tomorrow.
Next get plugs, wires and points set and maybe try and start it-not sure about my carb rebuild

Boat still at Glas shop, this guy is super slow but makes sure things are right; so not rushing him
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She runs--Well she turns over
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Well I got her cranked and short run (no water); but noticed coil was hot. Is that normal or could it be I left the key on.....
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I'll vote for key left on without the engine running.

If the points are closed and the key is on without the engine running you have a direct path to ground and the coil heats up.
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No water. Is it ok to do that. Thought my Sherwood would melt impeller???
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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

No water. Is it ok to do that. Thought my Sherwood would melt impeller???


Pump is not hooked up, just running enough to make sure it will run when I put it in boat.
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Oh I get it now. Wonder if I could take belt off for timing points etc for one minute
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You can also hook a water hose to the inlet. I hook mine into the transmission water cooler. Gonna set that up later today so I can check for water leaks.
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Install a Timmy T, you can hook up a garden hose in seconds and fire it up safely.
Read up on the Timmy T on this forum. Tim Provided a good how to.
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Lisa,
David's suggestion is a good one since you can do some diagnosing on the trailer BUT, make sure you also take his suggestion with utilizing the Timmy Tee method of supplying water. The danger with using a direct garden hose connection is the water pressure from the hose will mask cooling system problems. The Timmy Tee being an open system allows the RWP to suck what it needs without adding any water pressure. Also be aware of the Perko Flush Pro as it too pressurizes the system masking system problem. Besides, it's a plastic piece of junk anyway!!


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That's how your's should be hooked up. Suction on the bottom, discharge on the top and the screw head pointing outboard.





See pic (not my engine) of direction of my motor, how can it pump water in the direction of red arrow in top pic????
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Originally posted by jterr jterr wrote:

See pic (not my engine) of direction of my motor, how can it pump water in the direction of red arrow in top pic????

How a flexable impeller pump works. It is NOT a centrifugal pump!!!


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by jterr jterr wrote:

See pic (not my engine) of direction of my motor, how can it pump water in the direction of red arrow in top pic????

How a flexable impeller pump works. It is NOT a centrifugal pump!!!


And this means that the picture is right
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Didn't understand how it could work but the video shows it all. I thought for a minute I had a engine running backwards
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