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    Posted: January-04-2017 at 7:43pm
This thread may bit a bit long but hey, it's winter here and not much else to read.
While doing a normal RR on a rwp I noticed the housing was cracked. It broke completely when I was taking it apart. Having the proper equipment and raw stock on hand I decided to make a new housing. Following are pics of the re manufacture process.

This is the broken housing


Stock in lathe


Hole being drilled and outside shape being cut


On the mill now and putting in hole pattern and reliefs


Finished part ready to assemble
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Shaft assembly installed into the new housing


More of assembled housing


Back side


Really was not too big of a chore. Turned out good and assembled with all new internals.
Hope you enjoyed. Duane

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Nice! And those Sherwood pumps are not inexpensive.
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Hi Duane

I've been sitting here for half an hour trying to think of something witty to say about this, but "I got nuthin"

You're just a magician with metal

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Impressive work there Duane

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Originally posted by swilliams swilliams wrote:

Nice! And those Sherwood pumps are not inexpensive.

Steve,
Things like this happen when you're a retired tool and die maker with the time and the equipment. Cost doesn't factor into the project t!


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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

Hi Duane

I've been sitting here for half an hour trying to think of something witty to say about this, but "I got nuthin"

You're just a magician with metal

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Ken,
I too am at a loss for anything to say!

Duane,
Great job!


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Tool and die work is fading art form. One that I appreciate.

Nicely done sir!!!!
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Nice work! I very much appreciate people that can and will do projects like this. Keep posting these long posts !
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Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....Ummmmmmmmmmmm......

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Great work and a true improvement over the stock part. It never hurts to have beautiful billet parts in a motor compartment.
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Duane - Thanks for posting pictures of the process. I'm envious over your knowledge & equipment.

What material did you make the part from? 304?
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Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

Duane - Thanks for posting pictures of the process. I'm envious over your knowledge & equipment.What material did you make the part from? 304?


Chris, Did not use 304 which is a S/S grade. This part was machined from a piece aluminum that I had on hand. Undecided whether I will anodize it or not. I have NO plans to ever use the boat in salt water and plan to drain the engine after each outing. I have pet cocks on every drain plug hole.
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Originally posted by Frankenotter Frankenotter wrote:

Tool and die work is fading art form. One that I appreciate.
Nicely done sir!!!!


Chris,
You are so correct about the trade being a fading art. More people should pursue Apprenticeships in the Trades than chasing after "non sale-able" degrees. Affordable college tuition should include affordable trade school tuition. Most trades are very high paying positions.
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I can't even get the pulley out of my water pump.
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Originally posted by Blamey Blamey wrote:

I can't even get the pulley out of my water pump.


I know what you mean. I had to chuck mine up in the lathe and cut the hub out of the pulley and then make a new hub with a set screw and weld it back into the pulley. I first put the pulley in my hydraulic press and exerted 12 tons of pressure with heat and had no luck. P**s poor design.
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Originally posted by Duane in Indy Duane in Indy wrote:

Undecided whether I will anodize it or not. I have NO plans to ever use the boat in salt water and plan to drain the engine after each outing. I have pet cocks on every drain plug hole.

        Duane, I wouldn't worry about anodizing.        And Ditto all the glowing praise on the lathe work. Honest work, and a lost art form.
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Keep doing stuff like this Duane and we are going to be forced to kick you out of the back yard hack hobbyist club
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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Keep doing stuff like this Duane and we are going to be forced to kick you out of the back yard hack hobbyist club


HaHa, that's been high on my priority list!!
Finished up the pump today. As previously stated, I had to bore out the hub on the pulley and install a new one

Pulley with new hub installed, now with a set screw. (old system was pressed on)


Opposite side of pulley.


Finished item ready to be installed on engine.

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that looks awesome. I had to put a new pump in when I bought my boat..I know the old Sherwoods aren't cheap.
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Nice Work !

Can you make the front flag holder (staff) that goes in the light for the early mustangs?
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Originally posted by dochockey dochockey wrote:

Nice Work !

Can you make the front flag holder (staff) that goes in the light for the early mustangs?


Got a sketch or picture.?? Got a lot on my plate now but sounds interesting, especially if they went on Mustangs as late as mine. 1978
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Originally posted by Duane in Indy Duane in Indy wrote:

Originally posted by dochockey dochockey wrote:

Nice Work !

Can you make the front flag holder (staff) that goes in the light for the early mustangs?


Got a sketch or picture.?? Got a lot on my plate now but sounds interesting, especially if they went on Mustangs as late as mine. 1978
I don't recall provisions for mounting the flag past '70 on the 16' hull. Bow lights accommodated the staff through '68 on the Mustangs, '69-70 had their own receptacles. I don't recall any of my 71+ skiers or mustangs having anything... though our 72 SN does. Fairly certain my 75 M17 did not.
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Very cool. Old guys rock.. "yeah my bearing housing is busted.. no big deal.. I think I have a chunk of 4" billet kicking around.. Ill just chuck that bitch up in the lathe and burn a new one.. See? easy!" It is gonna suck when we die. nobody can fix a flipp'n toaster anymore.
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Why fix when you can buy new?

Kidding of course. Nice job!
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That's killer Duane. Making Sherwood engineers look like losers.
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Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

That's killer Duane. Making Sherwood engineers look like losers.

Thanks so much for everybody's comments.
Just took off my Jabsco plastic bodied pump and going to redesign it and reproduce it as it has 2 cracks in it.. Will use it for a backup or let someone else use it. Pictures to follow.
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Duane, ScottZ is looking for a plastic bodied Palmer (Thermo-Electron) pump. A pic of it is in the parts wanted section.
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