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Great words of wisdom! And, really impressive how much care and effort you are putting into this project.

What did you mean by "a couple of washers under the port side"?
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Forget everything I said in my last post. I went out and removed the strut and shaft. I had been in there before. What a pain to get my coupler off. I am pretty certain my strut is bent. The prop has some dings as well.

My new plan:
Send prop and strut (maybe Delta prop) to be straightened.
New dual taper A.R.E shaft.
new cutlass bearing

Any thoughts??




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Ernest,
It sure looks bend from this end of the computer!! Yes on sending the strut out to Delta. What's the prop? If it isn't a current CNC machined prop, look into one and keep the old as a spare. Yes on the ARE too.


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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

What did you mean by "a couple of washers under the port side"?

A common method to align the strut so the shaft is closed to the center of the log. But, I wouldn't recommend shims if the strut is bent.


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Ernest,
It sure looks bend from this end of the computer!! Yes on sending the strut out to Delta. What's the prop? If it isn't a current CNC machined prop, look into one and keep the old as a spare. Yes on the ARE too.


It was pretty obvious when I removed it, that it was tweaked. I will blame it on the kids, no way I would have done that.

The prop is a cnc 470. I really like the 470, but with my rebuilt motor and GT40 heads we will have to see how it preforms.

I am shocked it was this bad as the boat always ran smooth to me. Maybe I just forgot what smooth is supposed to be like :)

Thanks for all the advice guys! I will keep you posted.
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You've come this far...go with a new A.R.E shaft and ACME prop. You might want to consider the 4-blade ACME 422 with your new engine.

(I know - easy for me to say as it's not my money)

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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Ernest,
It sure looks bend from this end of the computer!!

I am shocked it was this bad as the boat always ran smooth to me. Maybe I just forgot what smooth is supposed to be like :)

I hear this frequently and it comes up here as well that bad alignment causes vibration. It's really the opposite since the prop shaft is in a bind that snubs vibration. An example would be applying pressure to the end of a vibrating tuning fork - the noise stops!


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That makes sense. Mine had good pressure on it! Would you go with a XPC strut bearing or the original 6 inch brass?
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Personally, I'd go with the good old rubber in the brass shell. There have been issues and in fact a very recent one here regarding problems with the XPC. With the hard plastic XPC, there isn't any "forgiveness" for shaft OD diameters. Normal shaft tolerance new may be .+ or - 003" under and then old there may be wear even below the .- 003".


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Yep.....it's bent. When I sent mine in to Delta I also bought a strut bearing to go with it. It came back straight as an arrow and the new bushing already installed.
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Originally posted by Morfoot Morfoot wrote:

Yep.....it's bent. When I sent mine in to Delta I also bought a strut bearing to go with it. It came back straight as an arrow and the new bushing already installed.


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Well, I made some progress on the winter overhaul. I got a new dual taper shaft, PSS shaft seal, , straightened strut, and new cutlass I put most of the interior in it, and took it for a test run today. My goal was to have a dry bilge. Test run was great. The boat has good power, I can really feel the GT40P heads and the cam upgrade. I didnt get the dry bilge.

I had both exhaust risers leaking a little. I didnt replace those gaskets as I didnt think they were bad and I knew I would break some bolts. When I got home I pulled the risers. I only broke two bolts!

I got lucky and one had enough threads for me to weld a nut on it, and the other one I had to drill and tap. Hopefully I will be able to get some finished detailed pictures pretty soon. Pretty cool having a boat with 2 hrs on it!



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Well, I think she all back together and running pretty sweet. I am happy with the way everything turned out. I hope some of the creases in the vinyl will even out when it gets hot and some use. I know it isn't a 1995 color scheme, but it is a CC color so I guess that counts. Hopefully, this will last another 20 years.







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Great looking 95! How many hours did it have before the overhaul?
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Thanks guys! It only had about 850 hours.
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Looks good I know it takes a lot of time to do that kind of work. You did a Great job.   Enjoy the boat with family and friends. After all isn't that what it is all about.
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The work looks really nice, makes for a very clean and crisp looking interior. When my interior was done it was January, there were some creases showing. By the time summer came along and it had been out in the warmth and sun a few times they had pretty much disappeared. I only had a few spots where I wished the skin was a bit tighter, one spot on the doghouse in particular, but all in all was very happy with the quality of the work.
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OMG. That boat looks like a true winner. How did it go painting instead of gel on the stripes? Sure looks nice from here!

You did a complete interior and I see you have the CC embroidery logo. Did you get that from Christines? Might I ask what the whole interior cost you?
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Ernest,
Nice job! You should be very proud of your effort.


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Thanks. The skins and install set me back around 3.5K. The guy that put the skins in was not impressed with the quality of Christines skins. He showed me some high quality vinyl and I could tell the difference. Fit was ok at best. Motor cover was very tight and the front play pen bottom is pretty loose. I imagine it is very hard to make skins without the boat and expect a custom fit. I wanted the CC logo, so I guess that is about the only choice. If I had to do it over again, I may not go that route.

As for the paint over the gel.....only time will tell. I had good luck in the past on another boat. I think replacing the rub rail made a big difference.
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The guy that put the skins in was not impressed with the quality of Christines skins. He showed me some high quality vinyl and I could tell the difference. Fit was ok at best. Motor cover was very tight and the front play pen bottom is pretty loose. I imagine it is very hard to make skins without the boat and expect a custom fit. I wanted the CC logo, so I guess that is about the only choice. If I had to do it over again, I may not go that route.

The guy that installed mine, who has been doing upholstery for 30 years, had similar comments. On mine he showed me the black section and how it compared to one of the beige sections, and how the quality of vinyl was very different in different colors. Overall he said they did a good job of patterning, but he isn't sure why they use low quality vinyl for certain colors.

I look at it this way .... if Christine's didn't exist, we'd be getting local guys to try to embroider logos based on pictures we'd all be sharing, and also trying to match color banding. Most of us wouldn't bother, we'd just pick some colors and patterns and go with it. So for what I was able to make my boat look like with their OEM replica skins, I was very happy with Christine's product and would definitely go with them again. Just my 2 cents.
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I wouldn't disagree at all. I am very happy that Christines provides this service. I can understand skins not fitting perfect, but I would have expected very high quality vinyl and impeccable stitching for the cost.
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:


The guy that installed mine, who has been doing upholstery for 30 years, had similar comments. On mine he showed me the black section and how it compared to one of the beige sections, and how the quality of vinyl was very different in different colors. Overall he said they did a good job of patterning, but he isn't sure why they use low quality vinyl for certain colors.


Probably a color matching thing. I know Christine's tries to source several versions of each color to best match to your original vinyl, maybe some colors are only available in lower grade vinyl. I did ask when choosing my vinyl which colors were newer vinyl so they was a better chance they would be available in the future.

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I'm in France but got the interior retrimmed in the UK. The Nautique dealer had an affiliated upholsterer who had the approved logos and the machine just stitched them in.

Presumably the same could be true in the US as long as your upholsterer is approved by Nautique to use the logos?
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Ernest, great job with the new color scheme! While I generally lean toward keeping it original, I agree that purple and teal just did not age well. Your new scheme looks fresh but still old school. Thanks for sharing.
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As for the paint over the gel.....only time will tell. I had good luck in the past on another boat. I think replacing the rub rail made a big difference.


Good looking job. I love purple and teal but blue trumps them all. One of my ski partners painted his 2000 SN this past summer to match an '04 to get rid of the swoosh logo..... I had my doubts but it turned out good and still fresh but looks nearly flawless..

Years and years ago dad had Christine's do a boat. It wasn't bad but it wasn't factory. But I am glad they are around and operate like they do.
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What model number is this rub rail from Integrity Marine?
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This is what my invoice was for:

F92033 -- 50ft of uniflex rub rail
F779 -- 50ft black insert tubing

I dealt with Mark at Integrity Marine.
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