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    Posted: May-23-2016 at 10:10pm
I have a chyrsler 318 what would be the run time say on a lake or river for a 31 gallon fuel tank?
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You don't give enough information to answer this honestly.

I think the Ford and Chevy small blocks tend to burn 8-9 gallons per hour at 3000rpm, if I remember some of the old data sheets (mostly data sheets on EFI engines from the 1990s and early 2000s). That would be about 3 hours of continuous run time at that speed with a 10% reserve.

Unless the day was flat calm and I were just cruising on a big lake, I'd never operate that way for that amount of time. I think some of these engines can burn 2-3 three times that amount at wide open throttle.
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Its a 1966 correctcraft ski nautique.What i will be doing in putting the boat in at a boat ramp,then going out the sebastian inlet thats 3 miles away then going to a shipwreck treasure site 1 mile from there and doing a 3 point anchor setup near the beach and dropping my 18 inch blower and blowing holes at 1/4 to half throttle.The ocean will be flat when i go out.As well as the ICW.
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Did you retrofit the 31 gal. tank into 66?


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Gotta admire a guy who uses a little 50 year old inboard ski boat as a dive platform....
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Wow no way would I take a ski Nautique out that crooked inlet. I've run many days and nights thru there, Sebastion separates the boy boats from the man boats.
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The inlets can get very rough in just a few minutes time. Best to have a twin engine boat with deep V and deep freeboard. Capsizing is dangerous.
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I worked all last summer on the 1715 fleet wrecks in a 16 foot shamrock ski boat with a 80hp diesel in it and blower that only did 10 mph max.Had no problems going thru sebastian inlet.I dont think ill have any problems with my boat that will do 40mph+ going in an out of that inlet.Ive seen 40 and 50 foot commercial king fish boats get sideways in the inlet before.Plus some of my other treasure hunting friends in their boats with big diesel detroits get in a little trouble there.But none have capsized.Im far from being new to boating.I also own a 37 foot all aluminum striker sportfish but dont use it for treasure hunting,just diving and salvage work in the past.Ill prolly be doing fishing tournaments with it after i get it painted inside and out.I havent put a 31 gallon tank in the nautique yet.trying to find out what the fuel burn is first then decide what size tank would be suitable for it.
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Though I've never been in a Shamrock, I think of one being better in chop and current than a '66 Ski Nautique, even if underpowered. The Ski has no V and will want to bow steer and bury the bow, you have to stay on the power to keep the nose up yet not run down into a following wave. Sounds sketchy to me.

Please don't think I'm doubting your experience and piloting ability, really am just commenting on the boat.

On your question about fuel burn - the 8 mile round trip at moderate speeds shouldn't burn all that much, guessing 4-5 gallons, and if you can keep down around 1/4 throttle when anchored you'll be at a pretty efficient engine speed from a fuel burn standpoint (2,000 rpm?), maybe 5 gallons/hour. So I'd think you could be at anchor working for 3 hours and burn a total of 20 gallons for the whole trip.

I'm guesstimating at best here.
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That 17' shamie is far superior to any Ski Nautique for those conditions and Shamrock never made a ski boat, to the best of my knowledge.
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Sticking just to fuel consumption, I'll reference this old test. This was on the "2001" series hull so I would think the smaller, less hook 1st Gen would get even better mileage out of a gallon than this. Keeping it under 30mph will definitely help your cause.

Using those values with the stock (18 gallon I think) tank, at 30mph you could run 2.5hrs. That's 75miles. I don't think anyone here would recommend you set out on a 50+ mile trip in a 1st gen, but you get the idea.

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Here is a pic of the shamie i worked last summer.It orginally had a chevy 350 in it that died and someone put a underpowered diesel yanmar 80hp in it with the wrong pitched prop.
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I uploaded the wrong pic.Dont know how the pic of a friend flying the P-51 mustang taking a pic of us working ended up there but this is the pic of the shamie on the trailer.
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Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

That 17' shamie is far superior to any Ski Nautique for those conditions and Shamrock never made a ski boat, to the best of my knowledge.


Oh yes they did says so right in their brochure. That by the way is a 20'   Walk Thru just like mine. The only 17 they made is a center console,like the one Reid has.
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Yanmar or yamaha?
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Are you planning to mount all that gear on the '66 Ski? How about some pictures of the boat, love to see it!

I actually think the Shamrock is a very cool boat. Out of curiosity, why didn't you just re-power it since it's all set up for your purposes?
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The shamrock belongs to the owner of the wreck site.I worked for him as capt of the boat.I wont be using his boat even though he offered it to me,its just too dam slow with the prop thats on it plus one of the fuel tanks has a obstruction in it and he doesnt want to cut the deck to pull the tank.The prop needs to be repitched a few times to get it right and he wouldnt be able to pay me enough to do it.
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Heres some pics of my 1966 correctcraft.The windshield is so clear you cant even see it.
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Know this is a boat forum, but would not mind seeing a picture of that P-51
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The gear thats going on my nautique is this 18 inch blower.I have to modify this one to fit plus make some brackets to hold it.It only weighs 20lbs.Also ill be adding some bigger cleats to the port and starboard stern and next to them will be sailboat rope winches,the type with the removable hand crank to tighten up 2 stern anchors.
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this is certainly one of the most bizarre nautique applications

so what the hell is the blower for? i'm totally lost
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You lower that pipe like in the last picture start her up put it in gear and the prop wash blows away the sand allowing you to find your treasure. Once you have gold fever there is no cure.
As a side note doesn't the Fishers own the rights and lease them out for a cut on the take?
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These type of rigs are all over east coast florida. Port canaveral has several large boats rigged like this.   If you see Key West from the air the shallow waters look like the lunar surface.   
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Also very doubtful any pattons from that many years ago would have any restrictions on the use of prop thrust re directional devices.
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John, i would think a raised platform aft of the engine would work well for you, bring it up to gunnel level. Make it out of coosa board to save on weight.   
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Originally posted by shierh shierh wrote:

Also very doubtful any pattons from that many years ago would have any restrictions on the use of prop thrust re directional devices.


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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Originally posted by shierh shierh wrote:

Also very doubtful any pattons from that many years ago would have any restrictions on the use of prop thrust re directional devices.


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I'd like to be able to tip the duct upside down so the outlet faces upward, could have the first Fountain Nautique at the sandbar.
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So if you put it the other way it is like a bidet??
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I assume that is removed for driving to and from the dive site. Is there also some sort of extension to get to deeper water or does doing that from the surface give you enough clearing power. I am with Hollywood - craziest ski nautique application ever.
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