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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Still gotta work out the logistics with Ethan, but that green Skier should be headed up this way Mike. (Thanks again Ethan, I'll call you this week!!!)


Great News Tim.

I am glad it is going to good hands, but I will kind of sorta miss seeing it about every three weeks as I pass it on I-85 as I travel for business.


I am curious if the trailer that it sat on was usable? I am pretty sure you will be changing it to a Correct Craft Trailer. However, I never got close enough to really check it out. I has been several years since I have even gotten close to it. Even then I never got past the dang tall fence.

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It was hard to see through the weeds and trees, but it actually was sitting on foam blocks. It's sitting on a Correct Craft number 2 right now, but it's just a loaner..
The boatyard is shutting down, so I don't know how much longer it would have been there.
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Wow. Saved right before the final bell sounds. Well done!
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This thread should probably be renamed " the infamous skier. Oh and some other boat project.. Haha
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Well there has to be at least 150 or more boat for him to get rid of if he is selling that property. My guess is that property is very valuable and most of those boat will have to go to a landfill. However, it will take one heck of a landfill and many saw blades or a heavy dozer to bust up those boats. There is likely a few highly sought after Bay Liners in that yard.
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Finally got the engine all back together.. Dropped it in the boat this morning just to make sure everything was going to line up down the road.



I don't know how many people even look at this thread, but I would just about kill for any pictures of early first gens anyone has. Specifically at this time how the battery area should be. It looks like there used to be a piece of plywood glassed to the bilge that the battery sat on. Also pictures of the plywood pieces that go on either side of the engine directly behind the seat need to be fabricated and there is nothing left to go off of.
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Or if there is a first gen closer than the 8 hours to Orlando I'd gladly bring a copious amount of the owners favorite brews for the opurtunity to look it over!
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Ethan,
I think your fuel pump is upside down.


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Here are some of the pictures I think you are looking for...

Battery Box - This is right in front of the pylon, under the front seats, shot is from leaning over the footboard and looking back to the motor:



It was moved to behind the Driver before we bought it (it was a demo boat):


Here are a couple of shots of the panel behind the driver seat next to the engine:



Panel behind the Observers seat is the same with no door.
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I don't know if Dubuque IA is closer, but I could meet you there sometime, that is where my Dad has his boat...
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Thanks skutsch! those are big help. Thanks for the offer, I'm down in SC, but if I visit my cousin that lives up there I'll keep that in mind. Does the bottom of the pylon on that boat anchor into the hull? Mine has a bracket that bolts to a bulkhead in between the primaries.

That's a test to see how well you know y-blocks Pete..
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Yes, there is a bracket that is fiberglassed into the hull, you can kind of see it here:

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Haha, better run out to the garage and look again, Pete! I thought the same thing until I looked closer, but I'm no y-block guy.

I got a chance to check out Ethan's progress in person this past week, top notch all around. I can't wait to see it continue to progress!

Skutch's dads boat will be a great reference point, almost all original!

Phil's '65 he's redoing would be another... Here are a few threads to check out:

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35457&title=1965-nautique-update

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29052&KW=&title=1963-nautique-progress

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25180&KW=&title=63-sn-is-back-home

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13945&KW=&title=63-ski-nautique

Does mike thrower (nautique frk) still have an early first gen? He's in your backyard, Ethan.

I'll follow up in another thread about the Skier. :)
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Haha, better run out to the garage and look again, Pete! I thought the same thing until I looked closer, but I'm no y-block guy.

Tim,
My 312 the pump is the other way with the sediment bowl down. I know of another 312 which has the bowl at the bottom as well. With the bowl up, it makes it pretty hard to clean without getting gas all over so I'm confused!


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this is so cool following these threads...



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A quick Google image search revealed more examples of the sediment bowl facing up than down, so take that for what it's worth. Plenty of results from this website, including the y that went from billy to roger. Perhaps more than one style of pump? This ones a carter iirc.

I looked at Ethan's for a few minutes and the shape of the pump matched the boss of the block the way it was installed... Sure didn't seem to be an easy way to flip it. Caught my eye for sure but not being a y-block guy I was easily convinced he had it right!
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I don't know Pete, that's what I thought but it was like that when I got it and I'm not sure how it could be flipped and be still be actuated by the cam concentric. Fwiw I was looking at and old "jimmy" six cylinder in my dad's shop and the pump was mounted the same way. What are the casting numbers on yours?
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Thanks for all the links Tim, I just read them all!
Looking forward to seeing that skier!
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

My 312 the pump is the other way with the sediment bowl down. I know of another 312 which has the bowl at the bottom as well. With the bowl up, it makes it pretty hard to clean without getting gas all over so I'm confused!

I wonder if you shut off the fuel and run it dry if the bowl empties by gravity.
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Well, I just dug out the manual and the engine pictures do in fact show the pump sitting with the bowl up however, there are two pumps listed in the parts section. My 312 is under wraps down in the boat house so I'll need to get down there and take a look. I know it's a Carter but I want to see if I can get a part # off it see which one I have. I did put a rebuild kit in it several years ago but couldn't find the paper work that may have shown which pump mine is but, there's a possibility that both pumps would use the same kit. Visually both look the same so I'll see if I can find out what the difference is.


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The main # on mine is MO-1521 with 3495s being stamped into the mounting boss edge.
Id be interested in the other style if this one dies at some point in the future. The only place I could find that makes the rebuild kit was Then and now automotive. carter rebuild They are really helpful!

I havent uploaded many pics because stringer rebuilds are so well documented, but here is where things stand right now.. I need to grind more out of the bilge in preparation for fairing gel. How many layers of biax should I run over the shaft log? its bedded with milled fiber/epoxy and has one layer now.




Does anyone know what this is from and what I should have instead? My gear shift is on the dash so I just need throttle for what thats worth. The mounting paraphernalia for the original setup is still behind the mounting area.



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Ethan,
With a shift on the dash, the typical accelerator is a foot pedal.

I'd go at least two layers of biax over the log. Three would be better. With each layer, go progressively bigger.

That shift or throttle looks like it's from a 50's outboard. Was it installed in lieu of a foot pedal? Is there any evidence of a foot pedal?


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Ethan,
Have you been any CPES on the wood? The ply sole doesn't look like there's anything on it. How about the bottom of the ply?


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There was a single lever Morse throttle that was available on the early boats and I would guess that may be what you had. They are referred to in the reference section.

As odd as that upside down fuel pump looks, I can't see anyway that it could be mounted or put together backwards. There's one with the bottom bowl on ebay now.   

Edit: the fuel pump is no longer listed, but I think it was the same guy with the very high priced carb set up. You may want to contact him if your looking for one.
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Pete, everything has cpes with the exception of the top of the plywood as you noted. I cpes ed the bottom and edges and then covered it with a layer of glass before bedding it to the stringers.
There was no evidence of a hot foot, but there wasn't much left of anything frankly. It does seem like the boat may have come with the ski group option as it has a factory tracking fin and the old mounting plate for the throttle looks factory.

Thanks Bruce, I guess flea Bay would be the best option for that?
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I've seen them come up, but like anything unusual, you got to be in the right place at the right time. Let it be known that you're looking for one. We've got several members that seem to be extremely good at finding stuff when it comes up.
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Almost done fitting the floor. Haven't deciding what is going to happen under the fore deck as it was just a mass of foam.






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I don't remember exactly, but I believe there is just a foot board that is at an angle. It is screwed into the floor (or maybe even on hinges) and then is just supported at the top by the side of the hull. Unfortunately I do not have any pictures... Just this one which shows the top of the foot board resting on the sides of the hull.


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That's all that is in my '63 Skier, angled footboard. No hinges, it's fixed.
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