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jake613
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Took a few more dash engine shots
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Donald80SN
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There was a guy on CCFAN in the last 12 months that owns a shop in Coastal South Carolina that does stinger work and boat restorations and repairs. Several of the members here had differences of opinions as to some of the modifications that he was doing to some older Correct Craft Boats which lead to a big discussion from him about doing what his customer had requested and how much time they were willing to pay for. Lets just say it was very educational. You may be able to find him via a search and others may remember his shop. If seems like he was working on a Barracuda and then was moving to a 85 ish 2001 ski Nautique. However, he is not in the Midwest. , but in the Southeast. .
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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
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74Wind
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Nautilus Restorations.com
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1974 Southwind 18
1975 Century Mark II |
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8122pbrainard
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Jake,
I have seen some other CC's with the Teleflex helm throttle/shift so I'd say it's original to your Mustang. CC went through some tough times so it was common for them to use any component they could purchase at that time. I can't comment on the stern ladder/railing. Tim or someone else may be able to fill you in. Is the ladder stainless? |
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TRBenj
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Throttle/control is original, I have seen many of those (almost all were '73's). Reid has/had several.
I think Pete's guess on the ladder being stainless might be right. The rest of the rail is aluminum. Here is what my original ladder looks like. |
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Riley
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Nice looking boat. Great project to find.
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skutsch
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Hey we are forgetting about Zach and N3 Boatworks in Indy. If you are serious about having someone else do the stringer work, I have seen some of Mark's work (he is their fiberglass guy), it is TOP NOTCH. It will be expensive though. Maybe you could save some money by doing the demo work before you deliver it up there. Would be worth a call to see what you can work out.
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Hollywood
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It's not Mark.
Jon Swaim of "Indy Marine & Auto Body" is the shop connected to their dealership and does most all of their stringer/glass/gel/paint work. |
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skutsch
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Yep got my names crossed... |
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DrStevens
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John Swaim redid my boat, it looks new, He is outstanding!
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randall
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Love me some orange. Looks like the mustang in the 73 brochure.
If I can ever be of reference to you, don't hesitate to PM me. |
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1973 CC Mustang
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jake613
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Awesome CC you have there, and very original. Thanks, I'm starting dis-assembly this weekend, Bagging and tagging and marking with masking tape. I figure if the stingers turn out to be to much for me having the hull prepped will save time and money. |
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jake613
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I have read through many threads on stringer replacement but haven't seen much information on what measurements to make. I don't want to get to far along taking things out. I am especially concerned about motor mounts and the angle of the engine and transmission. Any input would be welcomed, and sorry if this has been covered previously.
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TRBenj
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There are 2 important things to get right on a stringer/floor job... First and foremost is engine position. Height of stringers in the engine area is critical, less so in other areas. Also distance from transom. Take a lot of measurements from fixed reference points- through hull fittings that won't change, pylon mount, outside transom, etc. The 2nd (and less important thing) is to get the floor height right, as it will change seat/interior position if it ends up different. It's not uncommon to leave a small ledge as a reference point upon disassembly which can be removed once the stringers are in (before the floor install).
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8122pbrainard
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Dave Just so you follow what Tim is talking about, the ledge is where the old floor meets the hull sides. As well as taking measurements from the hull, I also like to lay a board across the gunnels and measure down. |
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peter1234
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I was also able to save the remnants of my old stringers to lay over as a template and as for the hull when i cut the stringers off there were lines left to sort of profile the new stringers .
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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jake613
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Great suggestion on the board over the gunnels method. Thanks |
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jake613
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Great help,thanks! I am not sure I understand engine position as to height and angle. Forward, aft and port starboard seems fairly straightforward to measure. not sure on how measure angle. |
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SNobsessed
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I would do what Pete suggested & place a (straight) 2x4 over the gunnels. Then measure directly down to the engine mounts, both L & R. Do this for both front & rear. Then 4 months later remember where you put that little slip of paper with that data!
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Donald80SN
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Just like framing a house. Go to Lowes or Home Depot and pick up a Carpenter Square. It will look like a funky triangle, but set at 90 degrees. You can also take out your middle school protractor. Dust it off first. You really need to dig up Keegan's Thread from about four years ago when he did a Red and White Skier in his driveway. He works (IT Web-Site) for a Harley Dealer in Asheboro, NC and he would be a good guy to pick up the phone and talk to. He did a real nice job, but has not been around much since he works a lot of weekends and does not get to boat much. I think he is in the witness protection program since he dropped off the map. |
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1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens
2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
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peter1234
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a smart phone camera and someone measure everything you can with a tape and some blue tape reference marks you can revert to the phone all through the project
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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Gary S
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I used to think that was a good idea until I jumped in at Quinners,lost quite a bit of stuff
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TRBenj
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I re-read what I wrote and confirmed I didn't mention angle? If you get the height of the stringers correct where the engine sits, and put it back in the same place, then you will be close enough to align it. Engine angle is a function of stringer height and mount design/location. Don't worry about it. |
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jake613
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Great reference on that thread, I hadnt read it yet, lots of good information there. Still confused on refernce points for engine angle, used home depot protractor like device to measure transom and stringer angles but unsure how to determine the angle on engine mounts. Ill snap a picture of my mounts, they have a triangle shaped wooden spacer aft and mount to the stringers forward. |
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jake613
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Ok got it, If the position is exact only one angle will work. While taking pictures I tightened all the engine mount bolts and they all seemed to hold. There is no way I should get my hopes up on stringer condition. |
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jake613
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Also have an unexplanied hole towards the front of the engine and roughly centered in the hull.
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TRBenj
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The drain plug? How familiar did you say you are you with these boats?
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jake613
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Not very, Thanks
I'm up to speed on mechanicals but lots to learn on CC particulars. I do apreciate all the help though, I wouldnt have even considered this project without all the good information and good people here. |
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JDD33
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The area around your mount doesn't show any signs of rust streaking and I don't see any areas of de laminating fiberglass. Have you tapped and poked around both stringers?
Maybe pull out a couple lag bolts from each side and see how they look/feel... Who knows till ya look! Did the previous owner tell you it needed stringers? |
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Old school goin back to school!
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JPASS
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These little bad boys can be quite helpful at setting the engine angle. Pretty cheap too. $10 at your local home depot.
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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique
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