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Originally posted by harddock harddock wrote:

consider going electric. You might even get a grant to do it!


I was going to say this, but figured i'd be ridiculed, this is exactly what I'd do if i had this boat.

There's a company that makes the engine's(motor's and battery) located in Canada, I think you could also go through Correct Craft and get one as they are a supplier according to the website.



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It is not uncommon to have no registration numbers on the Great Lakes. My friends Formula is a USCG documented vessel and therefore requires no state registration and has no numbers or identifying information other than the HIN on the transom and a tag somewhere near the engines in the engine bay.
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Originally posted by harddock harddock wrote:

consider going electric. You might even get a grant to do it!


I was going to say this, but figured i'd be ridiculed, this is exactly what I'd do if i had this boat.

There's a company that makes the engine's(motor's and battery) located in Canada, I think you could also go through Correct Craft and get one as they are a supplier according to the website.




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In order to qualify for documentation, a vessel must be five or more net tons. That is not a weight, but rather a measure of volume of the vessel. Generally, and boat less than 25 feet in length won't qualify.
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Bust out the big boy wallet if you want an electric SN!
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That' is why you apply for and get a grant!!!
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Art,

I looked under the platform, under the dash and could not find any HIN numbers. The boat is very solid like any other boat and seems built like any other Nautique of this time period. When I was looking under the dash I noticed none of the gauges are wired up. I will have finish that in time. The question is what are my options with this boat?

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Here's perhaps an exhaust for it.

Since the post may be gone soon, here's the text:
Quote Modified original equiptment Centek industries fiberglass muffler off of a 96 Nautique. Gives the boat a deeper louder sound like the pre 89 dual exhaust Nautiques. No other mods required to run this muffler. call Tony 833-1532
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In most cases confidential VINs or HINs are hidden in an area that requires the removal of a component of the vehicle. Are may have meant under the pod, not under the dash. An inspector from the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB) would probably be happy to do an inspection. If the paperwork looks hunky when you apply for insurance you may get a free inspection anyway. They know all of the locations of the con VINs. I no longer have access.
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Derek,

Odd that the gauges are not wired up. There's quite a bit of work in front of you on that front. What a fascinating find.

Sent you an email on the few parts I've found from my '93.
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Bust out the big boy wallet if you want an electric SN!
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I'd love to see a cost analysis on going electric vs your typical gas power plant.

I figure oil changes, winterizing, gasoline, engine maintenance adds up.

The fact that this boat literally has nothing, i feel the upfront cost could be made up overtime. You don't need exhaust, through hull pick ups, a gas tank, possibly no transmission either. It really really would be an interesting comparison.

We both know we're paying $5 a gallon at greers this summer.
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Boats with planing hulls are not good candidates for electric drive. They operate at high throttle settings, don't coast, have no regenerative capability like hybrid cars, and the batteries are heavier than equivalent fossil fuels. The electric Ski Nautique has the electric energy equivalent of 8 gallons of gasoline, or enough for about 30 minutes of skiing plus a bit of reserve for maneuvering. I am going to throw a wild guess of 50-80k more than an equivalent ICE powered boat. I don't want to sit at the pier for 3 hours every 30 minutes to recharge either. Compressed natural gas or LPG is a much better option IMO.
I like to think I'm green. I drive a very fuel efficient car and love alternative energy like solar wind and natural gas, but an ICE is very hard to beat for power to weight and the ability to utilize very energy dense liquid fuel. As I write this I hear the distant sound of a V8 powered boat out on the lake. It is hard to replace that sound with anything else.
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Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

Are may have meant under the pod, not under the dash


You are correct. I meant under the pod.
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Originally posted by upsman upsman wrote:

Art,

I looked under the platform, under the dash and could not find any HIN numbers. The boat is very solid like any other boat and seems built like any other Nautique of this time period. When I was looking under the dash I noticed none of the gauges are wired up. I will have finish that in time. The question is what are my options with this boat?

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Is there a wiring harness that runs from the pod/dashboard through the
tunnel into the bilge to the engine? Any battery cables?
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Art,

No battery cables at all. There is a wiring harness curled up under the pod. Nothing into the bilge area. The interior and exterior wiring is installed. Looks like everything is there except the wiring that hooks up the gauges and plugs into the main harness.

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Derek.....Do you mean that the harness that is there is not connected to anything at either end? Does it have molded plugs on both ends, or does one end have a male plug with one female prong and the other end just ends of wires?

Before you get too deep into the wiring, we need to know exactly what engine you are going to put in it. If you end up with a current engine, you will have instrument and wiring issues to deal with. I guess the very first issue would be GM vs. Ford. I think I recall reading that you already have the aluminum engine bed. That will be built for one or the other brand of engine, but can be cut are re-welded for the other. Best is to find out what boat it came from. Some years there are differences from year to year, too.

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Derek, here's a 1.23:1 transmission that should work with the boat...
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Hey Derek, any updates on the progress? Did you end up getting the motor/tranny from the '96 being parted out?
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Update,
I was able to get a OEM fuel tank and a GT40 with a trans from Kevin ( the gentleman parting out the 95 nautique). That worked out great. The rest of the parts I will buy new.
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This is going to be interesting Derek,please keep us informed on how it goes
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Let me know when ya get ready for a PEF Plaque for the boat. I'll get it made and DONATE it to ya

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What a fantastic find!!! Hope the build is going well. I live in Arizona which is a registration only state. If I can be of any help in the documentation process let me know. AZ is pretty laid back on a lot of stuff like this.

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Sounds like about the same deal when we used to buy body in White mustangs back in the 90s to resell from Ford through Roush with no VIN. Some had partial interior, some more complete than others and some were just bodies.

Find yourself a good motor and trans, wiring harness and you have a nice boat. Maybe even a newer boat with structural damage or that flew off a trailer hit a rock or stump. There out there trust me. Look in rocky lake areas of the country or ones with trees. Call some PCM nautique dealers you might get lucky on a super low hour combo that some kid rammed into a bridge over July 4th after too much moonshine.
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What an outstanding find!! I just saw this today for the first time and enjoyed the read very much. Any progress on this boat?
If it were mine, and I wish it were I would look for a donor boat, I have seen low hour Nautiques for 5,000 that unfortunately have sat outside for 18 years and are worth very little. I just searched for a year prior to buying our latest boat, a 95 in this exact color scheme.
I must have seen 3 or 4 with under 500 hours that were in horrible cosmetic shape. Hoping for updates to this find.
If you find a donor I would scrap it out (really cut it up and destroy it) and use everything from it needed for yours including the Hull numbers to make yours legal. Tell the DMV the old hull was damaged and you needed a new one, not a lot different than putting fenders and a hood on a wrecked car.
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Yes!? What became of this project??
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The project has been on hold do to a lack of time. But I have had the GT40 rebuilt and sold my 90 sn a couple weeks ago. I hope to have some time to get back on it soon.

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I am in need of a dash wiring diagram for my 1995 SN. Pictures of the back side of someones dash would be great.
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Logically, it's pretty similar to the 89 diagram in the reference section:
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/downloads/1989_SN_Wiring_Diagram.pdf
It's just the layout that's difference. I'll see what else I can dig up.
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Are you completely wiring it from scratch?
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Not even remotely close to the '89 wiring. I can't take time within the next few days to search, but I feel sure that "somewhere" among my stuff I have the diagram. Can you post a photo of the pod/instruments?
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I'd argue that an 89 is more similar to a 95 than either is to a 2000 or newer.

But hey, I'll happily eat crow if it means getting to see some 90s dash wiring diagrams.
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