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trn448s 
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 Topic: serious fuel filter issuesPosted: May-23-2010 at 1:36pm |
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for the past two summers i have replaced my fuel filters that i have bought from skidim item #0502. Fram long filter. both summers they have ended up like this one. The rubber yellow seal casket whatever has disintegrated and has cause me nothing but trouble, time and money. you can see in these pics that this yellow seal breaks off which then clogs my fuel pump and carburetor. Now as much fun as it sounds to rebuild both of these i assure you i have plenty of time and money invested in that act and i am tired of it. Please feel free to give me advice on the problem at hand but until i have figured this out i can't buy another fuel filter from SkiDim. ps i run 91 octane through the boat.
thanks, Tommy Needles '87 2001 ski nautique 
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 2:40pm |
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Tommy,
If you can't cross the Fram over to another brand, I'd convert the whole water separator filter assembly to a spin on. Get rid of the Fram!! I sure hope you don't use their oil filters!! |
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Brady
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 2:54pm |
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That may be the ethanol working on the filter
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emccallum
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 3:23pm |
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I agree with Brady, you are seeing the affects of ethanol. Either replace the system or swap fuels. Before buying a new filter be sure and check replacement cartridge cost. Some can be pretty pricey. I have the PCM canister type on the 95, it has a water seperator on the bottom. It cost around $42 for the replacement cartridge. Pretty pricey. I only run conventional fuel, so I replace it every two years. Maybe someone else has a more economical filter.
On the 82 I run the short fram, no problems, but I dont use Ethanol. |
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trn448s
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 4:14pm |
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what i have guess i don't know much about the water seperator/fuel filter. SkiDim website i am assuming it looks more like this 
thanks for all the help. |
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DrCC
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 4:17pm |
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Yes!!! You will be glad you did!
3/8" not the 1/4" |
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Whitfield
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 4:24pm |
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[s]Looks just like the standard Chevrolet 6.2L Diesel Fliter / water seperator. Very popular filter part # and a fairly easy housing to find new or used. |
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I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 4:30pm |
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It's not the one I have on my 95 6.5 Suburban!!!! 
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Whitfield
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 7:26pm |
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Sorry ~
I know I've seen them on later modles but the buyer giude for the wix filter #33123 says. CHEVROLET BLAZER (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET C10 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET C10 SUBURBAN (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET C20 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET C20 SUBURBAN (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET C30 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET G20 SPORTVAN 1983 CHEVROLET G20 VAN 1983 CHEVROLET G30 SPORTVAN 1983 CHEVROLET G30 VAN 1983 CHEVROLET K10 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET K10 SUBURBAN (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET K20 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET K20 SUBURBAN (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET K30 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET P20 VAN (1982 - 1983) CHEVROLET P30 VAN (1982 - 1983) GMC C1500 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) GMC C1500 SUBURBAN (1982 - 1983) GMC C2500 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) GMC C2500 SUBURBAN (1982 - 1983) GMC C3500 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) GMC G2500 VAN RALLY 1983 GMC G2500 VANDURA 1983 GMC G3500 VAN 1983 GMC G3500 VAN RALLY 1983 GMC G3500 VANDURA 1983 GMC JIMMY (1982 - 1983) GMC K1500 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) GMC K1500 SUBURBAN (1982 - 1983) GMC K2500 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) GMC K2500 SUBURBAN (1982 - 1983) GMC K3500 PICKUP (1982 - 1983) GMC P2500 VAN (1982 - 1983) GMC P3500 VAN (1982 - 1983 |
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Michael ....
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emccallum
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 7:45pm |
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Looks like that is the way to go. The whole assembly is less than the cost of my filter, and the replacement filter is only 8.95. I may swap mine to that one, just to save some money.
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 8:03pm |
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Does seem like many here are having issues with ethanol. Ours just switched over in austin last october. If that's what it does to things you can see, just imagine what it does to the stuff you can't. I may start searching for ethanol free. Anyone have any good suggestions?
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 8:25pm |
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Not sure what's available in your area but I've switched to running Shell V-Power. The big advantage, at least in my area, is that there is no added alcohol. I've gone to running that in the inboard as well as all my 2 stroke engines. It has solved problems I had been having the alcohol blended gasoline. As a side benefit, it is a higher octane and that takes away some worry about my slightly higher compression and advanced timing on the 351.
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Posted: May-23-2010 at 11:32pm |
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Not to take away from Skidim... I just got in another order from them. But if ya need it now!!!
Available @ cough cough Wal-Mart distributed by Attwood $26 
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Michael ....
I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
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Posted: May-24-2010 at 9:28am |
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I didn't know anyone was selling conventional gas anymore. Every pump i see here in Florida says 1 to 10 percent ethanol. The stuff is bad for engines . Also home depot told me after my new yard blower crapped out that they were having all kind of problems with using this stuff on yard equipment. Anyone know were you can still get ethanol free gas? This stuff blows.
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93 Ski Nautique SUCK MY WAKE
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Posted: May-24-2010 at 11:25am |
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Ethanol has to be added at the distribution center, b/c it is so unstable and will wreak havoc on the pipelines. You may want to contact a fuel/oil distributor in your area and see if they have any stores that they deliver conventional fuel to. I put a fuel tank at my house and have fuel delivered. My buddy did the same thing, and the company brought him a tank with a pump and all! It is a little more expensive, but it is convenient, and has saved all my gas powered yard equipment.
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Posted: May-25-2010 at 1:37am |
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""Not to take away from Skidim... I just got in another order from them. But if ya need it now!!!
Available @ cough cough Wal-Mart distributed by Attwood $26 """"" ========= Its the same thing skidim sells. but about 20 dollars cheaper. You can look at the pic from walmart and skidim and their pretty much Identical. But you will love the spin off. |
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Posted: May-25-2010 at 2:11am |
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Just put on a new WIX for this season.
Found The Mallory's while doing a search. Think I'll try the Mallory next spring. AT |
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http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=FL
Check any small airports near your home. A lot of them sell 93 Ethanol-free (for guys who burn auto gas in their planes) and they may not advertise the fact. |
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Posted: July-04-2010 at 4:01pm |
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Hey Tommy: Possible dumb question. A buddy has that same old Fram in his Sport and we can't figure out how to get the filter out. Does that black portion spin off, drop it down, and lift out the filter? We can't get it to budge. Thanks Doug |
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Posted: July-04-2010 at 10:16pm |
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Mine was tough to remove also. I disconnected the lines, removed completely from the boat then lightly clamped the head and used a filter wrench on the canister. But you are correct, spins off then the filter is removed from the inside. |
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Posted: July-05-2010 at 12:24am |
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[/QUOTE]
Mine was tough to remove also. I disconnected the lines, removed completely from the boat then lightly clamped the head and used a filter wrench on the canister. But you are correct, spins off then the filter is removed from the inside. [/QUOTE] But the filter canister does just spin off and the filter lift out? We just don't want to break anything. Thanks |
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