Competition Skiers
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Topic: Competition Skiers
Posted By: JMurph
Subject: Competition Skiers
Date Posted: January-15-2007 at 6:39pm
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I wonder how many of you guys were/are competition skiers?
For me, I just grew up with my dad and brother skiing on weekends behind either a ba$$ boat or a runabout. It seems like alot of you guys grew up behind CC's. |
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Posted By: The Lake
Date Posted: January-15-2007 at 6:57pm
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Great questions, I'd like to hear a lot of answers. I started skiing at 4, slaloming at 6, but all my skiing has been recreational. The lake where we boat at now has a ski course, so my youngest and I have been skiing it the past couple of summers. We're not very good at it, but it's been a great way to better enjoy our time together. He prefers wake boarding now.
Still the flatest wake I've skied behind was a 1970 16' Chrysler Fury with an 85 Johnson. My dad still has that boat. Even though our old Nautique puts out a bigger wake it's pretty cool to ski behind. Chuck ------------- Walk on Water www.coldwater.me http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=775&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970 - 69 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-15-2007 at 7:08pm
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Chuck, its good to see you pa$$ing the torch to your son, I guess skiing has evovled into wakeboarding and we probably would have prefered that too, in the day
eric ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: JMurph
Date Posted: January-15-2007 at 7:13pm
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I also started at around age 4. I learned to start right out of deep water with my dad in the water with me. I still have the little Cypress Gardens skis that my brother and I learned on. We both later learned to kneeboard and slalom. We stopped skiing for awhile around the time the Skurfer came out. We did have a couple of those old skurfers, but stop skiing and kind of missed the wakeboard era. We never did learn to barefoot. That is my goat this summer.
I plan on teaching my daughter this summer. She is five. I'm really enjoying the thread that's going right now about teaching kids/adults. She's really geared up right now, but I'll have to see how she feels in the water this summer. No pressure here. ------------- |
Posted By: The Lake
Date Posted: January-15-2007 at 7:20pm
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Eric,
The torch first pa$$ed from my father (and mother) to me. Water is in my blood, so many great memories. Chuck P.S. I guess I should give wakeboarding another shot, the first time out it didn't do anything for me, maybe this summer. ------------- Walk on Water www.coldwater.me http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=775&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970 - 69 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: January-15-2007 at 7:28pm
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I was fortunate enough to grow up on Lake Powell. I started skiing when I was very little. But my parents didn't teach me. I learned from the seasonal employees who worked at the resort. It was all open water skiing at Powell. Not until I was in the military and moved to Georgia did I start competing. Lake Powell is beautiful but a small ski lake with not so much as a ripple is incredible. Only cla$$ C tournaments. Usually a really good bunch of people at tournaments. Always find a ski club affiliated with AWSA when I get moved. My daughter is also a competetor. My oldest boy turned to wake boarding in his late teens. My youngest boy does not like to compete but he can run a full pa$$ at 15 off at 34mph. ------------- Bill http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks - http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks 1987 SN Rebuild Project |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-15-2007 at 7:34pm
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I tried and I tried barefooting all I ended up with as eninima, off the side no problem, we even had these shoes that were the size of bozo's feet that you laced up for barefooting, I dont know what they were called but they didnt work for me either.
Always slalomed and one day in 93 or 94 I seen this guy surfing behind the boat and thats about when wakeboarding started really taking off. started to wakeboard until the old tip of the board caught some water and I've never hit something so hard in my life, I was pulled onto the boat. 4 day headache and the end of the wakeboarding for me. nowadays I prefer to slalom, I dont get out as much as i would like too, and hopefully someday the kids will get interested ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Poster112
Date Posted: January-15-2007 at 7:44pm
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Started at 4 behind a 27 foot Sea Ray. Moved down to a 15' Boston Whaler and then a 17' Whaler before two of my friends that lived on the same Bayou got barefoot Nautiques and one got a 79 Ski Nautique like the one I bought this past summer. I trick skied and barefooted, but not competition. My friend, Jay, was a national barefoot champion for at least two years in the mid 80s and was coached by none other than Mike Seipel. I was a pretty good trick skier, but after seeing what Jay's dad put him through to compete, I had no interest in competing. He did get to practice with the tournament boats (BFNs), and it was cool to drive and ride in the boat with the extra speedos and judges jumpseats on either side of the motor box. As he was sponsored by Eagle, I got good deals on barefoot suits, too.
Those were the days! ------------- I'd rather have a bottle-in-front-of-me than a frontal-lobotomy. http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3182&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1925&yrend=2009" rel="nofollow - 1985 Ski 1984 SW |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 9:06am
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I learned to jump and run the course in college and went to a handful of tournaments. I hope to figure out that damn slippery ski this year and possibly find some INT tournaments in the future.
2007 will be my rookie show ski season. ------------- |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 11:26am
| Never skiied until I met my wife and her father taught me when I was 18. Then at 30, tried barefootin' and thought it was the single biggest adrenaline rush in the world. About killed myself self-teaching barefoot behind a '77 17' Crestliner tri-hull with a 140 In-line Merc. Read a lot of WS magazine and went out and proceeded to find out what not to do. Started on a kneeboard and needed a boat driver that knew just how far to trim the motor up, no more than a 1/4 tank of gas and the smallest observer that we could find to coax 36MPH out of that thing. It was cool. Then we got our inboard and the learning curve was dramatically cut down. At about 35, joined a nationally ranked show team with my girls and that was awesome. For seven years, the team was our life and we learned so much, not to mention did a lot a skiing. It was a pretty significant commitment though. Then we relocated down to FL and this year I want to compete at barefoot just to see how that works out. |
Posted By: todicus
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 11:57am
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I have been told that people with high arches have a hard time barefoot skiing, as opposed to people with flat feet.......... is this true ? One of my new year resolutions is to learn how to barefoot. I used ski shoes a couple of times when I was a teenager , and it was a blast until I wiped out and shoved my eyeballs unto my brain from the impact.
It's prbably the only new years resolution that I will actually keep......... ------------- Living outside the wake http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1525 - 95GT-40SNOB |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 12:09pm
My new years resolution, not to log on to CCfan during work. Made it til Jan3rd  ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
todicus wrote:Posted By: The Lake
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 1:12pm
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Alan,
It's called taking a break, renewing yourself for the next task--it's better than playing free cell! Chuck ------------- Walk on Water www.coldwater.me http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=775&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970 - 69 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 2:10pm
| I would disagree with the high arch thing. It's completely the technique that gets you where you want to be at. You just need someone to teach you the basics. I taught 8 year olds to foot so anyone older is a snap. If you were in FL, I would be happy to work with you. If you were to pick up a video from Ron Scarpa or Lane Bowers, they are very good at working the basics to get you started on the boom. Knowing somewone that is a footer would also help in getting the basic techniques and starts down on a one-on-one basis. |
Posted By: todicus
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 2:42pm
Thanks for the offer !! I'm in Northern California, so I don't think we could get much further apart logistically than that. I will definitely pick up a training DVD as you have suggested. A buddy of mine has a barefoot boom that he cannot use anymore due to his inadvertant upgrade to a Malibu Response, which doesn't allow a straight boom to fit due to the windshield shape going past the pylon, so I've got dibs on it for cheap.........(free). ------------- Living outside the wake http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1525 - 95GT-40SNOB |
Posted By: Poster112
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 3:57pm
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What is the "slippery ski"? ------------- I'd rather have a bottle-in-front-of-me than a frontal-lobotomy. http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3182&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1925&yrend=2009" rel="nofollow - 1985 Ski 1984 SW |
Posted By: tjlake
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 4:21pm
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learned on a 17' 1959 Aristocraft with a 75 h.p Evinrude. Have got a picture, at age 4, riding on my dad's shoulder's. He's 80 now, and when I look at that picture, I think I can still remember when it was taken..wonder why this stuff is in my blood. Hope I can have/create those same memories with my kids.
Ran my first slalom course last year, got all 6 balls by the end of the year.WILL do it better this year..Great thread guys..Joe ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1882&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1985&yrend=1985 - 85 ski nautique |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 4:23pm
trick ski ------------- |
Posted By: Poster112
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 5:06pm
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Man, in my opinion, the trick ski the most fun of them all (barefooting is a close second). You can do any of the tricks that the wake boarders can do and it is not as awkward a stance as the wake board. Because your feet are in a stance like a slalom, close together but with your back foot in a relaxed open stance, you do not really have a back side and a front side, just a strong and weaker side like slalom skiing. With your feet so close together, your spin axis is easier to line up. Also when you wipe out, I don't think that you are as prone to injury, as you are going slower and because of the shorter and skinnier size, you get a softer landing (sink into the surface a little bit). Yes it is slippery when flat, but not on edge. You can do just about anything that you want to on one. I've done flips, line tricks, wake line tricks, toe tricks and even tumble turns. The trick ski is much smaller than a wake board which lets you spin faster and with no fins, your turns are smooth as silk for surface tricks. You gotta try it. I thought that I would like wakeboarding, as it is fairly similar, but the wake board is so much more sluggish and bulky. ------------- I'd rather have a bottle-in-front-of-me than a frontal-lobotomy. http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3182&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1925&yrend=2009" rel="nofollow - 1985 Ski 1984 SW |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 6:26pm
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The learning curve is so damn steep I usually toss the thing in favor of something I'm better at. ------------- |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 6:34pm
Drinking beer perhaps???? ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: '88 nautique
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 8:36pm
| My younger brother and I learned to ski behind a mid 70's AMF slickcraft. Before we had a boat we used to sit on the beach in okoboji and watch Boys Town take out their kids and waterski behind a blue Ski Nautique. It was totally awesome to see them. I swore that someday I would own one and teach my children how to ski. I purchased my 88 2001 last fall. Come to find out the boat was owned by the same corporation ( boys town) we had seen 30 years ago. Just a different boat. My children can slalom and kneeboard already, but never behind a CC. Infact I have never been in or behind one yet, this summer is going to be awsome ... |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-16-2007 at 11:04pm
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Backfoot: Where are ya at? We are in Lake Wales. Just got here 3 years ago from Northeastern Ohio.
As to the subject matter at hand....my dad taught me at about age 10 behind his buddies boat. Had twin 45's! Thought it was hot. My brother found the West Shore Water Ski Club in about 68 and the rest is history as they say. Learned to do it all, foot, jump, trick, fly kites and show ski. Did all sorts of show acts. GN-6027's Dad used to sell our shows. Awesome feeling skiing in front of lots of spectators just like the pros. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 2:38pm
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JBear, I'm in Winter Haven. Just a few miles down the road. Just got down here two years ago from south central WI. Luvin' it.
I'll agree with you on the rush of show skiing. The WI state show ski tournament is the largest water ski tournament held in the world every year. Typically draws about 3000 skiiers before the weekend is over. When you run three four-highs for an end pyramid and line up 36-40 people on the dock and pull 'em all off with a 21' Hydrodyne that has three 150HP Evinrudes on the back end, that's impressive. Especially when you're sitting there with a young honey on your shoulders and when the rope comes tight, the tow boat is actually already doing almost 20MPH. Almost brings it to complete halt before those triple engines grunt everyone off the dock. Then you build it and come around the corner into the show course, there are typically between 7000-9000 people standing on shore just screaming at the top of their lungs. You wanna talk about an adrenaline rush!!!! Whew! You feel like Superman!!!! The transom on the triple rig we had to rebuild about every three or four years. It was 3/4" stainless gla$$ed into the rear end with the biggest freakin' clevis hooks you'd normally see on a tractor. Cool stuff. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 3:05pm
150's? The Wonder Lake team here has trip 300's last time I checked (or possibly 250/275's - either way it's insane. I heard that they renamed that boat company, which was first HydroDyne, then DynaSki, to just "Dyne". http://www.dyna-ski.com/hist.html - Hydrodyne History |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 3:50pm
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Trip 300s? I've never seen that. Most I've ever seen is trip 225s. Lately the trips are 200s and twins 225s. backfoot could probably provide some better info from the past decade of show dynes. ------------- |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 4:46pm
| I've been out of show skiing since '01. I agree with Hollywood. Triple 200's I've seen, and twin 250's. Nothing in the 300HP range. Doesn't mean that they aren't there. We were actually the first team to have a triple rig at a major tournament. Over the next three years there were at least 4 or 5 that came out for the big teams. I think that once you get to that level, the difference between a 150's, 200's and 225's pull comes down to the driver. We've pulled more with the 150's than other teams have with 200's at the same tournament. I've also seen teams use a twin 250 rig pulling another twin 250 rig that was in turn pulling the pyramid. Once they took off the second boat had a release up to the front bow eye that disconnected the first boat. Now you would think that two boats with 500HP would easily out pull a single triple rig with 450HP. They did it, but it took multiple tries to git 'er done. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 5:13pm
| Ok, ok, so that may have been an exaggeration. I thought that 300's had just come out recently and that somebody had them on a 'Dyne. An employee at my last job had a kid on the team and used to talk about the boats all the time and that may be where I got the rumor. The main point was that the only trip rigs I've seen have been 200+ motors, and I was poking fun at the 150's. I don't actually care about this. |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 6:06pm
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Joel, I could be wrong but I though the Rock Aqua Jays had a triple rig with 250's on it last year. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 6:46pm
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Hmmm, this thread got me thinking. I should put a 250 hp decal kit on the pontoon engine!
I know these are salt series, but I've never seen a larger outboard. PLBC stands 5'11"  ------------- |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 7:03pm
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Backfoot,
What team did you ski with? My son skied with the Aquanut's for many years, the State Tourney in Wisconsin Rapids was always my favorite event of the year, always some really great teams and ton's of fun. The Aquanuts ran 3 225's on one of thier Dyne's for many years, they have cut em back to 175's or 200's the last couple seasons. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-17-2007 at 9:32pm
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Backfoot; Ok so you are right next to us. When do we meet up for a cold one?
Where do you ski here? We usually put in at the ramp next to Harborside but those lakes are kinda busy. You are most correct about the show rush, nothing like it. I wasn't ever really any good at other sports, skiing was it. We've been here 3 years in June. Got here just in time for all the Hurricanes in '04. Bet I'll be seein' ya soon! All the young guys on this site are gonna be jealous; I'm gonna meet your daughter before any of them! Eat your hearts out you PLBC guys. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: January-18-2007 at 8:48am
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Quinner, I skiied with Badgerland. It was awesome. Still have a lot of close friends that ski with them. Just about the time I left, the team really downsized. A lot of the old guys left and they struggled for few years. They're coming back though and should be a contender again soon.
Jbear. Definitely have to hoist a few. I would love to see the '80 up close and personal. We live two houses off of Lake Elbert. Don't go on the chain too often because it can get pretty busy but it's nice to cruise or to go see the Gardens show from the water. Harborside is good eatin' though which is nice. I usually go to Elbert, Ned, Ruby, Daisy, Rochelle, Buckeye or anyplace else the water is skiable and no traffic. 407-733-3599 is my cell number. Give me a buzz and we can arrange to hook up someplace. |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: January-19-2007 at 6:57pm
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: January-19-2007 at 6:58pm
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he ran the ski team at Ford Lake out Michigan for many years. ------------- http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/buckethead1236/Barefooter6-10-09002.jpg" rel="nofollow - MY 87BFN |