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Topic: Hard starting when warm
Posted By: wakemeup
Subject: Hard starting when warm
Date Posted: September-06-2009 at 2:38am
I've got a 99 Air Nautique with a Pro Boss 351, 310 HP motor. The boat starts fine when cold but when it is warm I have to hold the key in the start position for about 5 seconds or so before it starts. It doesn't always do this, there is no pattern. It has always started but having to "turn it over" so much before it starts is annoying. Any insight from anyone as to whats happening is appreciated.
Thanks

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Wakemeup

1988 Ski Nautique

1999 Air Nautique



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Posted By: jerry@vail.net
Date Posted: September-08-2009 at 4:36pm
Check out this thread:
http://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=14377&PID=176239#176239
Is this similar to your symptoms?

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Jerry


Posted By: wakemeup
Date Posted: September-08-2009 at 6:10pm
Mine has never stalled or ran rough after starting. The only problem is you have to hold the key in the start position way to long before it starts. Anyway let us know what the PCM guy says.
Thanks

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Wakemeup

1988 Ski Nautique

1999 Air Nautique


Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-08-2009 at 6:59pm
I think that is pretty normal on the 310 hp engines......

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Posted By: wakemeup
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 2:09am
Originally posted by behindpropeller behindpropeller wrote:

I think that is pretty normal on the 310 hp engines......


Thats unfortunate! Everytime someone else drives the boat so I can board I have to tell them to hold the key in the start position until it fires. My friends Sanger with a Chevy Mercruser lights within 1/2 a second to holding the key in start every time. Oh well thats what I get with owning a Ford. That Chevy 350 is the best engine ever built for any application, its bullet proof.

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Wakemeup

1988 Ski Nautique

1999 Air Nautique


Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 9:58am
My 351 starts with that 1/2 second period. If your timing is set too advanced, that will make it start hard when hot. I backed mine off 1 degree (to 9) & that helped it start easier.

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Posted By: wakemeup
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

My 351 starts with that 1/2 second period. If your timing is set too advanced, that will make it start hard when hot. I backed mine off 1 degree (to 9) & that helped it start easier.


I'll give that a shot. Thanks for your input.

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Wakemeup

1988 Ski Nautique

1999 Air Nautique


Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 4:01pm
Has nothing to do with being a Ford. My GT-40 starts on the first crank every time hot or cold. Start looking deeper than the name.


Posted By: beck
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 9:04pm
it could be vapor locking, my 94 sport nautique does that, we just leave the engine cover open after we use it and it starts up fine later

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1994 Sport Nautique 21ft 5.8L EFI Pro Tec Injection 310HP


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 9:31pm
Brandon,
I'd wager to say it's not vapor locking (real hard to do on a boat) but rather your Pro Tech suffering from heat soak.

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Posted By: beck
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 9:40pm
well we do that and it works everytime lol, if we dont keep it open after using it then it doesnt start 15 minutes later

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1994 Sport Nautique 21ft 5.8L EFI Pro Tec Injection 310HP


Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 10:22pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Brandon,
I'd wager to say it's not vapor locking (real hard to do on a boat) but rather your Pro Tech suffering from heat soak.


Did we have protech in 99? I thought that went away in about 94. I to agree that vapor lock is probably not the cause.
I take it this is a HO carb motor? And not a GT-40.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by Fl Inboards Fl Inboards wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Brandon,
I'd wager to say it's not vapor locking (real hard to do on a boat) but rather your Pro Tech suffering from heat soak.


Did we have protech in 99? I thought that went away in about 94. I to agree that vapor lock is probably not the cause.
I take it this is a HO carb motor? And not a GT-40.


Originally posted by beck beck wrote:

it could be vapor locking, my 94 sport nautique does that, we just leave the engine cover open after we use it and it starts up fine later


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Posted By: wakemeup
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 10:37pm
Originally posted by beck beck wrote:

well we do that and it works everytime lol, if we dont keep it open after using it then it doesnt start 15 minutes later


I take it you just idle the boat when you are switching skiers/boarders in the open water. I am fairly new to boating but was taught to turn the motor off anytime someone was going in or out of the boat, especially around the swim step. I'm constantly turning the boat on and off.

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Wakemeup

1988 Ski Nautique

1999 Air Nautique


Posted By: beck
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 10:46pm
ya we just leave it run, and then you know if your out there for the weekend and you take it out, open up the engine cover and just leave it open until you use it next, let me know how that works for you

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1994 Sport Nautique 21ft 5.8L EFI Pro Tec Injection 310HP


Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 10:52pm
Originally posted by wakemeup wakemeup wrote:

Originally posted by beck beck wrote:

well we do that and it works everytime lol, if we dont keep it open after using it then it doesnt start 15 minutes later


I take it you just idle the boat when you are switching skiers/boarders in the open water. I am fairly new to boating but was taught to turn the motor off anytime someone was going in or out of the boat, especially around the swim step. I'm constantly turning the boat on and off.


We still need to know if it is a GT-40 or a carb motor????

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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.




1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0



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