PWC opinions
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Printed Date: May-17-2024 at 10:37pm
Topic: PWC opinions
Posted By: tullfooter
Subject: PWC opinions
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 11:16am
I'm looking a possibly buying one or two used PWC's. I know it's hard to get opinions on this site  , but I'm hoping to get some reviews about Sea Doos, WaveRunners, and Jet Skis. I'm looking at skis ranging from '95 Sea Doo XP's to 2003 Waverunners.
Thanks Steve ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 11:29am
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Are you on drugs? ------------- |
Posted By: form&function
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 11:40am
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four stroke is the only way to go.Something like a old ultra 150 or whatever they call the new ones.The two strokes are hard on gas and break more.
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Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 12:23pm
It's either PWC's or a couple of new tubes to rip up the lake.  ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
behindpropeller wrote:Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 12:25pm
I'm feeling ill...  ------------- |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 12:27pm
I just put a small BB gun in the boat to shoot tubes sitting at docks with nobody around  ------------- |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 12:41pm
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Tullfooter;
Wow, forget the PWC buy an Arctic Cat M-7 with as short as track as you can find. Its a dual season vehicle. You can run up to the UP or Cadillac in the winter and in the summer you will be the talk of the lake, as you do some skippin. Plus its a little more technical, no stoppin to chat when your on the water. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dVQ-m4EExY&feature=related - Water Skipping Make sure you watch the second scene! P.S. I have a couple of buddies with PWC and unless you are going to go "old school" and get a Stand up (Then look for a Kawasaki), the consensus with them is the Yamaha's are ROCK Solid! ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: ryanowen
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 12:45pm
Steve, We've had mid-90s Sea Doos and Waverunners at our cabin. In my experience, the Yamaha's were much more reliable, at least with the older models. Our Sea Doos were constantly having problems. I can't comment on the new stuff. We don't have any PWCs anymore and no plans to get them either. The only one I'd consider buying at this point would be a SuperJet to take out in Lake Huron. There are so many inexperienced boaters riding around on those things that they make me nervous every time I see them. I don't want to get off topic and rant on PWCs... it's truly not the vehicle itself causing my paranoia.
Ryan ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3284 - 1988 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 92ccc
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 1:07pm
| We have two Sea Doo RXP'S,four stroke with super chargers,great on fuel and very dependable.I think the fit and finish on Sea Doo products is second to none,defenitely would buy again.We have also owned older Sea Doo's and Yamaha two stroke,still would take the Sea Doo. |
Posted By: mr_beat
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 1:41pm
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80's Standups!! I have a JS550 and they're a blast. Never ride a couch! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4210 - 1985 SN 2001 |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: September-03-2009 at 11:55pm
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Just rent one a few times each summer to get it out of your system. I've ridden them & got bored after about 10 minutes of doing donuts.
Considering depreciation & maintenance, you are better off renting. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:05am
...it's like a bad virus.  ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:28am
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While I have no use for it; wives, kids and guests really enjoy our 1998 Sea Doo Limited. 900cc 2 stroke twin. Good for 63 mph. Sucks major gas, but so far only requires routine maintenance.
As a kid, we had the old school Kawasaki stand ups. Would really like to get a pair of those. At least it takes a little skill to run one. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1868&sort=&pagenum=1 - 62 Classic http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5242&sort=&pagenum=1 - 2002 Super Air |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:31am
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Stand-up's ( the only REAL jet ski ) = Kawasaki
Sit down's....get a Yamaha, or perhaps a well maintained 2003 or later Sea-Doo. Whatever you do, don't, I repeat, do not buy a pre 2000 Sea-doo. Get a 4 stroke if you can. Those things depreciate worse than anything you will ever own, so make sure you get a good deal. You should be able to buy 2 machines 3-4 years old w/ low hrs in a-1 condition with a trailer for about the same price as 1 brand new one. Like SNobsessed stated,they are fun,but the newness wears off quickly. We have two and I wouldn't care if they both sank. Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:32am
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BTW, nice watercross footage Skutsch
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: dwcar
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:46am
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I have two 2002 see doos. they are two stroke. I have had a few minor problems but nothing major. We enjoy them. You can go places on them that you wouldnt want to take the Nautique. ------------- 83Ski |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:47am
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Mike (05 210) are you a sledder too? The kids got a 79 John Deere Spitfire for Christmas last year, we rebuilt the engine this summer and I am looking forward to seeing how it does. Also did some mods on my XF-7 as the ski (H2O) season winds down, especially with the ridiculously cold weather here, I am starting to think more and more about sledding.
I always thought a sled on the water would be a lot more fun then a PWC, at least in the long run. Much more challenging! Haven't grown big enough "stones" yet to try and pull that one off in front of the wife ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 2:08am
Used to be a big snowmobiler.Can't seem to find the time lately. I still have an 04 F5 to terrorize the neighborhood on, but haven't had a big trail sled since 03. I used to ride in Canada and The County alot when I was working on sleds for a living. There are a few guys on this site who ride. I still love it,it's just not a high priority. My son has a sno scoot and we ride locally.My wife and I have talked about getting back into it,but it involves buying 2-3 more machines and a bigger trailer. It takes alot of cash to go snowmobiling with the whole family. Gear,helmets,gas etc, you know the drill....... Once it's in your blood though, it never goes away.As long as I live in an area where there is a chance for snow, I'll at least have 1 sled kicking around to ride when it does. Sorry 'bout the thread-jack Tull. Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 2:19am
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Sexxxxxyyyyy ! 
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 2:48am
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Depends on how old your going in my opinion, yamahas are super reliable but anything older than a 97 is too slow. The 1998 gp 1200 we have around is big, fast, and rides well and most likely forever but as a two stroke it is loud, smelly, and with three carbs can suck 13 gpm at wot.. plenty of fun in short bursts. Seadoos were plenty fast after 94 as long as they were dual carb or better, and gas usage could be worse. I think an 800 cc 96 to 99 seadoo is a great power to gas mileage machine on a budget, but I also know first hand they are not perfectly reliable, but when I get 12 years out of the first engine I am not against throwing a few bucks into a rebuild. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 2:57am
Huh? I gotta guess that you are kidding. As far as to the idea of getting a pwc...I like you to much tull to let you know how I feel about that. But don't worry...these strange urges will soon pass. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 3:04am
Steve, Did it once..... Wayyyyyy back on my 95 Yami 600...(my "buds" were calling me names...LOL) 
I just made it, belt got wet and was slipping...aint worth the chance on my '02 Viper! I have friends that still do it all the time tho... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 3:11am
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I spent many saturdays in my buddies prostar with a few cold ones chasing jet skis out of our slalom course. Sorry, but I hate the damn things. Wouldn't mind em on a big open lake but on our little pond/lake its pretty useless. ------------- |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 3:22am
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Thats funny, I thought I was logged on to CorrectCraftFan.com. But there seems to be this mindless banter about Water Mosquito's.Whats best , whats fastest,. Oh well I know tommorrow this stuff will be gone and we will be talking about Correct Crafts, enough already guys about the ski's OK............. ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 3:34am
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Heard! ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 7:30am
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Have a 98 GP 1200 from new apart from servicing had 2 new batteries but are hard on gas.
If you won't some thing different there is this 
Start your engines! Cross the finish line first with the HRS-Benelli Series R Race Edition Jetski 2008. Streaking across the water in brilliant black, red and silver, the Series R Race Edition is powered by a V6 cylinder, four-stroke, 2260cc, 342hp engine. Able to seat up to three people, this HRS-Benelli jetski is perfect for a leisurely ride on the water or for racing against your friends. Also features an electric starter. HRS-Benelli.  ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 10:47am
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Wow. There are seemingly an awful lot of closeted PWC owners on the inboard boat site. I guess admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery....
Our lake is small enough you cannot legally use one on it. Whew! ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: C-Bass
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 11:57am
13 gallons per minute!!! That's like Top Fuel Dragster flow right there. That thing must fly! 
Aside from all the mindless bashing of PWC's, I'll offer some input. I've only rode 2 different PWC's, both Sea Doo's. One was around a 93 2 stroke, and the other was a 2006 4 stroke. Aside from the 4 stroke being significantly quieter, the newer hull rides so much smoother and keeps the keel planted well in the water so your not constantly sucking air thru the impeller. However, the newer ones just feel so much larger, and lose some of the fun factor of PWC. I don't know why anyone would want a larger (3 seater+) PWC, because to me that just defeats the purpose. Despite what people say about PWC's, there is fun to be had on them. Just like so many other things, it's the person behind the tool, not the tool itself...(insert gun control debate ). I get eye rolls when people find out I ride a "Crotch Rocket". They instantly figure I'm one of the D-bags that ride wheelies down the interstate shirtless, helmetless, cutting people off, making tons of noise. But 95% of the riding I do now is on a race track. I can't help it the vast majority of the people that use those machines are idiots, but that's not going to deter me away from having my kind of fun on it....
...Rant over ------------- Craig 67 SN 73 SN http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6103" rel="nofollow - 99 Sport 85SN |
Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:12pm
I intensely dislike two strokes for anything bigger than a chain saw. However, I don't think it would be a complete summer if I didn't get a good whiff of that intoxicating blend of burnt oil, lake water and early morning dew. Takes me back all the way to my Grandpa's fishing boat and all of our clapped out steel pontoon boats with woven lawn chairs on them. Sorry, waaaaay OT. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1868&sort=&pagenum=1 - 62 Classic http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5242&sort=&pagenum=1 - 2002 Super Air |
Posted By: Terp
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:36pm
Lucky you! |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:36pm
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Doc
Lighten up. There are many topics discussed on this site that are opinion based. Not everyone likes beer, unions, Obama, Hooters, etc. (OK, everyone likes Hooters). But this is a site filled with well educated guys and girls who own, or are interested in, Correct Craft boats.. What a great place to get feedback on a different kind of watercraft. I live on an 80 acre lake that does not allow PWC's. It is too small, and in my opinion, would be choked if PWC's were allowed. I have a cottage on a 540 acre lake that, in my opinion, has plenty of room for PWC's. There are plenty of times that the water is too rough for the BFN, and I don't want to float on the pontoon. I want to cruise around the lake and enjoy the water. Two weeks ago, we were at my father-in-law's condo on Lake Charlevoix (17 miles long), where we rented two 3-seat Waverunners. We ran these for 4 hours and had a blast. We also took them out onto Lake Michigan. Like someone stated up the page; it's not really the PWC, it's when an idiot is operating it. I've seen plenty of boats operated by idiots, some are actually CC's. But I don't have a disdain for boats, especially CC's. If I do buy PWC's, I will monitor the operation of them, and not just let Uncle Buford rip out willy-nilly and act like an A-hole. The same way I wouldn't let him drive my BFN. But wait, I stress when my wife drives my BFN. BTW No worry about the thread jack. Great video on water skippin. We've done that in the past, maybe 500' at the longest. We found that Polaris' ran the best. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: almabes
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:45pm
Dude! I had a '83 JS440 and a '93 Yamaha 650 SuperJet and a '92 SeaDoo XP. Then I got a wife and kids. No more PWCs. The SeaDoo was the easiest to ride, and I never had any problems with it. The SuperJet was the most fun though. The JS440 had no rev-limiter, so I blew it up regularly. ------------- favorite computer wisdom: net helpmsg 4006 '76 Martinique PCM 351W |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:48pm
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We had two 96 Yamahas and sold them for the 88 Ski Nautique. Can count the number of times on one hand I've ridden one of them machines since. All the bouncing tears my ass hair out and occasionally I'd land on my balls, f that. ------------- |
Posted By: C-Bass
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:51pm
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Good post Steve.
On this topic...
...Just last Saturday I was waiting patiently on the platform with my ski on for the last boats to hit the road. Water was getting to be pretty glassy except for one boat who just kept circling the lake....guess what it was!?! A 97SN!  It was at that moment I decided to hate all CC's...------------- Craig 67 SN 73 SN http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6103" rel="nofollow - 99 Sport 85SN |
Posted By: Terp
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 12:52pm
Reminds me of horseback riding! |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 1:15pm
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get the inflatable ones that look like jet-skis and pull them behind your boat, best of both worlds ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 1:17pm
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btw, i did have a brand new 3d still in the box, 3k took it, the guy loves it, real fast ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 1:22pm
Now, that's an image I can do without!
I have a 96 Yamaha XL760. Don't use it much, but it does a good job. Never done anything but put oil & gas in it (and lots of gas). Make you a good deal on it! ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 1:35pm
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just a suggestion. Laser. Olympic single handed car topable sail boat. On a rough windy day you will fly and have your hands full keeping it upright. Quiet, fuel efficient, and won't disturb folks like a jet ski will. You don't have to buy a Volvo, and smoke a pipe. Thats for bigger blow boats. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: September-04-2009 at 3:36pm
Well said c-bass. Couldn't agree more. Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: hasbeenskier
Date Posted: September-05-2009 at 1:14pm
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We bought an 08 See-Doo I think it is a GTX 155hp four stroke Rotax 3 seater. It is a very stable craft. Very satisfied, just routine service which is expensive enough in my mind. We use it to get from point A to B. Like jumping on a golf cart to the neighbors house. I also use it to put the slalom course bouys in.
bj ------------- hasbeenskier |
Posted By: sam57
Date Posted: September-05-2009 at 5:23pm
| Pesky little things, reminds me of a swarm of flies. |
Posted By: jwchapman
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 12:56pm
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I've got a pair of 96 SeaDoo GTXs to go with my 91 Sport out at my lake house. They are great to have when more people are out than can fit in the boat or just to play around on. I and my friends all have kids and I like the older 3-seat jet skis because they are stable, relatively slow, and you can take a couple of kids out at a time. Definitely more fun to have the jet skis in pairs. ------------- 1991 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Rusty2sb
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 1:34pm
IMO you can't beat the Sea Doo LRV, they stopped making them in 01 or 02, but they are the best all around. Fast, Big, can ski, knee board, wake board and tube behind them. Tons of storage and room for people. Every time I ride mine I get the "Holy %&*# look at the size of that Sea Doo. They are rated for 4 people, but you can easily fit 5 or 6.
Steve |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 1:36pm
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Last night, we picked up a '97 Seadoo GTS 3-seater. Runs greatl. Original owner, adult. Did not come with a trailer, but came with a single hoist, cover, and (3) Seadoo vests. $1600. Looking at a two-place trailer today. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: ryanowen
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 7:00pm
How about http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/boa/1332705982.html - this ? Stand-up that comes with a two place trailer!  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3284 - 1988 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 7:18pm
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Ryan
You must be bored, looking at the K-zoo CL. The stand up trailers are typically narrower and shorter than what I need. The trailer I looked at today was for stand ups. Thanks for looking out for me. Something will turn up. BTW, we're heading to Big Rapids for a barefoot race on Sept, 19th, if your interested. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 7:20pm
Tull- How about some details? Tim ------------- |
Posted By: ryanowen
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 7:31pm
Well, you got me thinking about Superjets now!
I use http://craiglook.com/ - craiglook , BTW. You can do a radius search based on zipcode and it browses all listings so you don't have to go to each city individually. I'll keep the 19th in mind! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3284 - 1988 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: September-09-2009 at 8:47pm
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Because of the increasing death toll of PWC users and there victims, Oklahoma state legislators are considering banning them on state park lakes. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-10-2009 at 10:33am
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Tim
27 mile race on Saturday morning, 8:00. It's called the Lockwood Endurance Barefoot Challenge. I'm not sure how many teams will show because there is another race in St. Louis, and a figure eight race in Grand Rapids. Last time I heard there were 6 teams verbally committed. Ryan Thanks for the link. I've wondered how people search a wider range. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |