The 1979 Ski Tique Resto-Mod Story |
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75 Tique
Grand Poobah Joined: August-12-2004 Location: Seven Lakes, NC Status: Offline Points: 6107 |
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Yeah, I'd like one of those too. Shoot, having a Tique myself, I'd be happy with one of your trial runs, tests or prototypes.
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“So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
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Kristof
Grand Poobah Joined: October-08-2007 Location: Bree, Belgium Status: Offline Points: 3391 |
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Me too!! You need to make some more... For your CCFan buddies! |
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- Gun control means: using BOTH hands!
- Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
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kapla
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Me like those!
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<a href="">1992 ski nautique
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LeftFieldEngineering
Senior Member Joined: December-20-2010 Location: Monson, MA Status: Offline Points: 384 |
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Thanks for the kind words.
While working on the motor my engine guy commented on the random 1/4-20 bolt holding down the backfire arrestor. Fixed that last night: I'm going to try a different engraving tool to see if I can't get a little deeper character, if they turn out nice maybe there's a market for them. |
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xarmypilot
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WTG Andy! I can remember quite a few very, very fast "79-'80 model CC's on Lake Gage when I was a kid. My uncle had a '80 SN that'd run 49 mph all day long. You get the re-manned carb tuned just right, there's no reason you shouldn't see 48-52 mph in normal conditions. Get a good coat of beeswax on the hull and a tuned prop- BLAM! Lightnin'!
I know some of the CC purists out there may not be into "Resto-Mods", but your '79 has to be one of the most thought out, tasteful updates to the design I've ever seen. My self, I've been thinking about removing the teak interior trim and replacing with epoxied carbon fiber. It's light, strong, it's durable and stays cool to the touch Wood in a fiberglass performance boat just never made much sense to me. I dig wood boats, but that's a whole different thread... |
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'68 Chris~Craft Grand Prix (Past family boat) '72 Checkmate Mx16 (Past family boat) "Speed is life, altitude is life insurance" |
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GMacLaren
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. . . a VERY good one, if you ask me. Thanks for the good thinking, clear reporting and great photos. -=Grant=- |
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Bri892001
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LeftFieldEngineering
Senior Member Joined: December-20-2010 Location: Monson, MA Status: Offline Points: 384 |
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Finally a day on the lake where the boat left in better shape then when it arrived.
Since my existing carb runs fine anywhere above 900 rpm and I'm still waiting for my re-man to arrive I decided to say the heck with it and take the boat out this past Sunday. The boat fired right up, but seemed to be having a timing issue as it was coughing from the carb with any acceleration and wouldn't get over 1500 rpm. Prepared for this I had my timing light and tools close at hand. I adjusted the distributor, but couldn't get a good timing reading as it was so bright on the water. I set it where it ran the best and we went on with the day. Once up and running she ran 41 on the GPS in choppy crowded water. I think once I get the timing dialed in and the water's in better shape I can improve on that. I'm hoping to head out tomorrow for some additional tuning and trials. Best part of Sunday was it was the first time I got to ride behind the boat. Not going to lie, I had a pretty big smile on my face the entire time. |
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LeftFieldEngineering
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I fixed the gaskets, got it timed right and determined there's still something amiss with the carb. Instead of wasting more perfectly good ski days pulling the carb off over and over I opted to pick up an engine tested re-man carb and some new gaskets. I'll work on the other carb when it's raining.
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LeftFieldEngineering
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Update:
Since my initial testing a few things have come up. I refreshed the carb which ran rich after rebuild and discovered milky oil which turned out to be a cracked block. As mentioned in the cracked block thread I toyed with the idea of picking up a block and rebuilding it, however I went with a remanufactured long block. I stripped the cracked 351 block, cleaned all the parts and reassembled the motor in a few days. After installing the motor it was time for the ultra-important break in. For this I opted to take it over to my friend's brother. He checked it over, primed the oil system (again), set the timing and had the boat up and running in no time. We made it through the break in with no major problems. The only hiccup was we couldn't get it to idle down below 1800 rpm with out it falling on it's face. After some investigative work (starting fluid trick) we discovered a pretty large vacuum leak coming from the carb / spacer area. Before pulling the carb I had an idea what it was so I grabbed the shrink wrap the gasket came in and a spare spacer plate. As you can see in the picture the gasket was one of those "semi-universal types" so it had 2 bolt patterns. Since the bottom side of the spacer is not solid air was leaking though one of these other bolt holes. I swapped it with the carb to spacer gasket which covered the entire spacer. After swapping the gaskets & retesting the motor I was able to get the idle down to 1000 rpm, but I couldn't get the idle to return on a regular basis. Even at 2 to 2-1/2 turns out on the idle screws it's still running very lean. I'm going to do a little searching to see what I can dig up, but if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. |
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LeftFieldEngineering
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No regrets on the pull, my buddy has been the first skier on the lake for the past 20 years except 1 year, when I beat him to it. We didn't know each other at the time, but we were pretty much destine to be friends if your both crazy enough to ski when there's still ice on the lake.
It's not our first time playing in the frigid waters. It's normally not that bad if you say ON the water. Fall IN an you start questing your dedication the sport. Makes you a better skier that way. St. Patty's day 2011. Water temp was 36, but it was sunny & 70. How could we not go skiing? Iceburg skiing, it's like swivel for men. Textbook overhead press. April 1st 2011. Snow was falling and we've always wanted pictures skiing in the snow so we dunked the MFG into the lake and went "snow skiing". I'll admit, this day was COLD. Look at that glass, not a tuber in sight. |
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Smithfamily
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Great Job! I like the wife's idea, although I think I sense some sarcasm there!?
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xarmypilot
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Hey Andy, great thread & excellent work . What a really nice boat you've got there!
Any regrets from your friend taking that first pull? It's (finally) creeping into the 70's here and I'm still feeling the cold after watching that vid... |
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'87 SN 2001
'68 Chris~Craft Grand Prix (Past family boat) '72 Checkmate Mx16 (Past family boat) "Speed is life, altitude is life insurance" |
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wataugasn84
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Great finish to great thread!! This is why I am on this site. Makes me feel like a wuss, No ice here and still waiting on warmer weather.
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LeftFieldEngineering
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The boat test wasn't the only thing Tique related I got to do this past weekend. After wrapping up a few customer projects I decided to make a little something for myself.
CNC plasma cut from .083 steel sheet the sign is approximately 24 x 16 and once painted should make a perfect addition to the garage. Of course I show it to my wife and she said I should have cut a few more signs that read: "broken" or "not broken" to hang below. The picture was from my float test this past fall. |
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jimsport93
Platinum Member Joined: February-20-2008 Location: Alpharetta Ga Status: Offline Points: 1749 |
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Very cool Andy. Love the enthusiasm and excitement about your boat.
Going to be a great summer.....enjoy! |
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Frankenotter
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I think this post / boat embodies the spirit of this site really well.
It looks like you guys are having a ton of fun on that thing. Awesome! |
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LeftFieldEngineering
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Of course the test did yield some things I need to work on:
1.) When on the trailer idling (700-800 RPM) and shifted into fwd / rev the transmission clunks and makes noise. It has a relatively clean neutral and the noise seems to go away / get better above 1000 rpm. I was advised by TRBenj that it's most likely the damper. I didn't even notice it during the lake testing. I'm going to hash out following problems and revisit this one later. 2.) The ATF is milky. I changed it once and it got a little better, but it could just be optimism. I'm going to change it 1-2 more times before I go pulling the cooler. 3.) The carb leaks fuel from the boosters, especially after shutdown. I've ordered a carb kit and plan on starting fresh with a rebuild 4.) It could use a new battery, simple fix. |
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LeftFieldEngineering
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Of course no ski boat test is complete with out a test pull. 40 degree water or not my buddy was determined to be the first skier of the year + the first skier of the Tique.
Ski Tique - First Pull |
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LeftFieldEngineering
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With the driveway test completed the next step was a trip to the lake. Since there's still ice on part of the lake we didn't want to leave anything to chance so we brought our own tow boat in case something happened.
There's no going back now. As I pulled into the boat ramp parking lot I realized I was more nervous about this test then I was on my wedding day. Short of sinking or catching fire I was going to be happy with the outcome of the testing. With both boats launched it was time to cruise the ice filled waters and see if all our hard work paid off. Once through slush we were good to go. |
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LeftFieldEngineering
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It was a weekend of "firsts": The first time towing the Tique with my new truck, first tank of gas (post-rebuild), and most importantly the first time turning the key with the motor in the boat.
Cooling water, shot of ether & IT'S ALIVE! Test Fire Such a sweet, sweet sound |
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jbear
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I gotta agree with Larry....just so impressed with what some of you guys just "whip up"......
nice job all around! john |
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
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Jetties2014
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If only we could all have our own machine shop!! Cool with the platform mounts, guess I should have figured. I ordered a new set from alloy marine last night, should be good to go. If you ever get bored and decide you want to make another ski pole hook up like the one on your boat I'll buy it :). Looks awesome and allows easy hook up for a skylon.
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LeftFieldEngineering
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Jetties, I ended up reusing 2 of the 3 Tique brackets so I don't think I'll be much help with originals. Post a thread in the wanted section, perhaps somebody else here has some. If not PM me, I'd be happy to quote some fabricated replicas.
Speaking of fabrication; Here's one of last nights projects. I though about buying them from Christines, but I didn't want to wait for them to arrive. Some scrap HDPE plastic + 15 min on the mill and I was good to go. |
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Jetties2014
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Hey nice post about the restoration, and nice boat. I just move to CT from TX and picked up a Ski Tique on the way up. I am restoring the boat and just purchase a new swim platform. I was wondering if you would be willing to sell your original platform brackets? If you still have them.....let me know, thank. John.
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75 Tique
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Given the caliber of the work to date, I wasn't too concerned about things not lining up right.
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“So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
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LeftFieldEngineering
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The Tique platform was in pretty rough shape. Somebody decided to use 2x6's to support the bottom, thru bolt it with carriage bolts to the brackets, and shot about 50 screws into it (all of which were ground down on the topside)
The picture should help explain the 4th bracket addition. I didn't feel like adding a center runner to the Nautique platform so I opted to just add the 4th bracket. Also the brackets were never designed to be a "quick disconnect" just removable. I looked at making a slide in version, but there wasn't enough room on the left side where the hull bumps-out for the pitot mount. |
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Mojo
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Why did you decide to add a 4th bracket in the middle?
I'm trying to figure out a quick disconnect system. While yours works, I dont have the patience to remove 12 screws to take my platform off haha.. Thanks for the explaination.. I've seen where some have made a bracket like yours, but put 2 small angled bars down either side and added the opposite middle to the old platform angles and then pin the two. Kind of how Alloy makes (well when they actually work)... |
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73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
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TRBenj
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I would have restored the Tique's teak and kept the brackets the same but judging by your skill set it was probably quicker for you to make the metal fab modifications.
I was gonna say that the brackets looked to be mounted pretty high- the platform I put on my Tique was basically bottomed out on the lower hull corners... And even then, the platform was partially covering the original stripes. |
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LeftFieldEngineering
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I appreciate the concern, but do you really think I would have just "gone for it" without proper measuring & a good mockup?
That being said Tim is correct; the angles are different between the Tique & Nautique. For that reason I kept the Tique's original outer brackets and used them to get everything lined up. Once in position I modified the 2 Nautique inner brackets to match the hull. The only difference now is my platform sits 3/4" higher due to a hardware interference. |
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