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BuffaloBFN
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Whatever Joe. I would've expected you, of all people, could sort fact from BO's fantasy.
From Nordstrom on Capital Hill: "You know what (is) most frustrating about this assignment? It's not the hardships, it's not the gunfire, it's not the threats. It's dealing and fighting against the people, programs and personnel who are supposed to be supporting me." "And I added it by saying, 'For me, the Taliban is on the inside of the building.'" |
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JoeinNY
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He should be frustrated that he a soldier is paraded on capital hill to comment on decisions that were not his doing.
Soldiers always ask for more soldiers, commanders have to lead and have to take more into account than what the soldiers are asking for, including the reality of republican led congress reducing funding for embassy security.. but more importantly that we cannot do these things for libya forever. Our soldiers belong here That soldier was making comments calling the locals they had trained in libya that were that day in tripoli taliban. Those were not the people that attacked that day. I am glad he was not our abbassador and does not speak for our country. I am equally if not more so glad that he fights for and defends our country, but I doubt any one person could do both without compromising either. But again that dog already didnt hunt and didnt gain any traction because the attack wasnt in Tripoli and most realists recognize that we need to train locals to replace american soldiers there and elsewhere.. so if we are going back to congressional testimony from two weeks ago, and not the new supposed facebook bombshells then I still dont understand why if it was such a big deal Romney took a pass on it at the last debate? |
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BuffaloBFN
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I have the hearing on my DVR and Reagan passed on the Iran hostage crisis in a debate with J Carter.
Believe what you want...so far you are wrong. |
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skicat2001
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Go take a economics class goofy. You may learn something!! |
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skicat2001
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Again, Obama outclassed Obama and choose not to attack him. Real class!!Unlike that stupid muslim president we have now, just another liberal attack. ALWAYS POINT THA FINGER!! |
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I early voted today. Took me 5 seconds.
Romney 1 Obama 0 |
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Joe, what you say is not representative of what happened. The spontaneous demonstration was in Cairo, All was quiet in Benghazi till the explosions started. They had the name of the alquida group responsible 20 minutes in. The attack was watched for its seven hour duration on live video feed. Obama says he did not want to spread misinformation but he did just that for 2 weeks. This is the guy who claimed to such a savvy consumer of intelligence that he could skip half his briefings. Lets review. The attack happened on the anniversary of 911. The attackers had rocket powered grenades, and killed 4 Americans after a 7 hour siege. Are you telling me Obama is so naive he thought this was a protest? His administration is covering up its foreign policy mistakes to get through the election and the media is doing what would be the equivalent of Woodward and Bernstein covering up for Nixon.
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i want to know if anyone feels there is a difference in terrorism and acts of terror to me there is a difference. an act of terror is a home invasion or something of that sort . or even scenes from silence of the lambs . in my mind terrorism is and has been always associated with political groups . I think mitt was not wrong for his statements during that debate. of course the liberal moderator was a big help.
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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GlassSeeker
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Obviously, in hindsight, there was not enough security at the embassy/compound. How much would have been enough? who knows? We could have had 10 more guys there, would that have been enough? who knows?
How many of our other embassies did not get attacked on 9-11? How many of them were under any certain threat? From what I have read Stevens was very well loved by the Lybians and I think he may have felt safer than it turned out he was. |
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Skiing tomorrow so I am voting Friday. Romney 3 Obama 0....:)
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Maybe Obama should take this class... 2008 video Actually he is good! As he claims, it took bush 8 years to add 4 trillion... he added 6 trillion in less than half that time. |
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BO did not call Benghazi a terrorist attack in the Rose Garden, if that's what you're getting at. In fact, he went on to the UN 2 weeks later, in front of the world, and blamed the video. So did Jay Carney and Susan Rice. Did anyone hear from the actual bosses? No, just the Admin surrogates. And that cutesy explanation from Joe about Nordstrom...hear this: they went to the Hill w/o the Admin's blessing. "inside the room" refers to the US personnel who were supposed to be the support structure these people needed to do their job. They were refused security right before the attack and State pulled Woods' team on the 16th(8-16). It alarms me that roughly half of this country is busy making excuses for a failure. Just who is it that can't see what he has been doing? He's blocking Medicare cuts until after the election, he ordered layoff notices to be held until after the election, and in the last debate he blamed Congress for the sequestration, etc, etc, etc |
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How many have a parking lot full of Volts Gov't Motors can't sell anywhere else? How many have a $100,000 charging station in the same parking lot?
You are saddly misinformed. They were begging for help because they knew it was coming. The intel community didn't fail anyone; the Administration changed the narrative to fit with BO being the greatest ever on Foreign Policy. Now the entire middle east is in an uproar. Great job BO. Does anyone else wonder how much damage that video didn't have to cause? That's all on BO. |
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Nice! To add from fox news: At 4 a.m. local time -- 6 hours and 20 minutes after the initial attack began -- former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed at the CIA annex by a mortar shell. The machine gun they were firing was caked in blood, suggesting they continued fighting after being hit. "The last two casualties occurred well over six hours after the initial attack," McCain and Graham noted. "It is disappointing to hear that our national command authorities failed to try to reinforce the consulate with timely air assets, and that a consulate located in one of the most dangerous regions in the world was so unsecured." |
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Andy Sorry to here about the vandalism. It goes with the liberal "ends justify the means" mindset. It seems they have to turn off the "right and wrong" part of your brain to justify stealing from one to redistribute to another. After that all lines for behavior get blurry. |
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Yes sir... I dont know why but Ohio scares me.. |
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Yea, this is what those high ideals Republicans did to my neighbors last election. Determining the cause of vandalism is always questionable, however death threats are not. Death Threats There are reports of it happening again, however it was not published so as not to scare the family's children. |
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Hmmmm....funny that Lybia is so important. Bush was warned about 911 and he lost thousands that day. Oh yeah...he was reading to preschoolers or rather they were teaching him how to. That's right, I remember now. Is that the best you guys can do? You've got nothing.
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I wonder. How many empty threats on an embassy in the middle east there must be? Honestly. It's probably an almost daily occurrence. Now NYC? That might be a different story.
And that is the best the other side can offer? When you can't stand up to any of the facts that it was a Republican president that put us back into deficit and ran the best economy this country has seen into one of its worst in only eight years, all you can come up with is Lybia compared to NYC? Unemployment in this state is under 7%. All indications show an economy on the rise after the meteoric plummet of the Bush era. Huh....Clinton gives Bush a golden economy, Bush gives Obama a pile of crap and suddenly the Republicans are going to save us? I pray to God that America is smarter than that. |
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Normally, I really don't like to engage in talk about politics or religion, but, I did see a great sign in Milwaukee yesterday.
Milwaukee is a very liberal town, as is a lot of Wisconsin, but, I have to tell you, in my travels through southeast part of the state yesterday, for every one Obama sign I saw, I saw nine Romney signs. Its called Mittmentum I thought this sign said it all. The bottom point said "We the people....are going to have to let Obama go". |
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I find it interesting that the sign mentions the second amendment. Obama is the only president in my memory who has expanded gun ownership rights.
Obama signed a bill into law that included a measure that allowed people to carry concealed guns in national parks, and therefore expanded concealed carry on federal property. |
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John, did Chicago's finest ever solve this one? Sounds like one that usually gets figured out, especially if the city council return address was legit. I only ask because I remember a lot of "self inflicted" incidents last time around, with people trying to generate a bias for the other side. Basically trying to create the racism they were looking for from the right but could not find evidence of. If the city council really sent it out that is the strictest yard sign policy I have ever heard of. |
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The attack is not the problem, its the cover up by the administration. The left would chant "People died and Obama lied." (Catchy) Obama's support of the Arab spring without any plan for filling the power vacuum has destabilized the region, leading to the ambassadors group dying in what had been a fairly stable country. Obama can't afford that to be proven right before the election so his administration lied for two weeks about its origin. If they wanted to wait for concrete information that is fine, but to make up a cover story was stupid. There was not a protest related to a video. That is what turned an unfortunate situation into a scandal that is being ignored/downplayed by the media. I guarantee Obama is not thinking we have nothing. |
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Do you have any idea how far from logic your argument is? Do you know David's car was damaged? We think it wasnt, and if it was, he did it himself. What experience and knowledge would cause you to think death threats are easily solved? You are blinded by a fanaticism I normally only seen in cults. Our sign ordnance is strict, but they substituted a $75 fine for the death sentence some years ago. |
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Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black! There is so much BS going on in this election. Between the tight presidential race where it is looking like the incumbent is beginning to panick, gay marriage and a 3 way senate race where the Dems are supporting the independant and NOT the Dem candidate, I'll be glad when it's over. |
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I think it is so funny how Obama is grasping for anything and only has personal childish attacks left. Romney chooses not to stoop down too his level. Which is making him look even worse.
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Romney will legalize polygamy if elected.
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