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Keeganino
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Look what you did Marty. You got em all riled up!
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"working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger
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GlassSeeker
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OverMyHead said "The alternative is to look at what worked, and duplicate it."
You must be referring to President Clinton's balanced budget and the surplus created. |
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This is the life
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Hansel
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Reading that list of taxes it seems to me that many of them are what you might call "pay to play" taxes. For example, if I want to go fishing I pay a tax in the form of a license that goes to support the maintenance of fish stocks and lake ecosystems allowing the fishing to take place. Seems like a perfectly legitimate tax to me. Many people think of taxes as solely a mechanism for the government to collect money. Sometimes taxes and fees are used to create a negative feedback on behavior that we as a society have deemed problematic ("sin taxes"), or just to keep people from abusing a system. I have no problem with taxes in principle and I struggle to see the logic that very often seems to say "I want all the benefits without having to pay for it." You cannot have your cake and eat it too! And this from a person fresh off doing my taxes and seeing my burden in stark relief!
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OverMyHead
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Jusrin, thank you for the gift of that wonderful analogy, I had to scroll to the bottom of the page and check to see if it was birthday. You are correct, it is hard for anything to improve our even maintain itself when you attach leaches to itand drain its life blood. True for people, economie and buisnesses. Doctors are bright, they look at tesults and change their thimking and treatments. Unfortunatly democrats learn much slower. |
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
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Jllogan
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ha 100 years ago, doctors were bleeding people out with leaches and penecillin was our best medication. That would definitely decrease healthcare costs. Also life expectancy was right around 50 so that really would lighten social securities and medicares loads. Solves alot of problem.
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eric lavine
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I think someone in Syria would agree to your 100 terms....whaaaaaa
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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harddock
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And this is because HIS Harry reid once again will not even bring it to the floor. Harry Reid head of the Senate DEMOCRAT The Senate has enough democrats to pass anything they choose. |
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harddock
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DRINK MORE KOOL AID
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ononewheel
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He isn't going to get "his" budget, and you know it.
More like a campaign pitch, and that is fine by me. Is there anything the righties will agree to? Are you really saying we need to roll it back a hundred years? Or that you do not benefit from the above taxes and fees? Or are you short sighted so badly you think they were only enacted to create more gov? I for one am glad there is a building permit tax, ( many more on the list too) , my neighbors house falling on mine would suck. |
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OverMyHead
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We have 15 trillion in debt and are heading for 22 trillion if Barrack gets his budget, that is what I call ravaging "the land" in a decade. Each of the taxes above was enacted to pay for more government, and yet the government went further into debt. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. The alternative is to look at what worked, and duplicate it.
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
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JoeinNY
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100 years ago seriously-- that's where you want to get back to? 300 million couldn't exactly live like we were living 100 years ago without ravaging the land to worse than useless in less than a decade.
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OverMyHead
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Q. What is the common thread?
Building Permit Tax CDL License Tax Cigarette Tax Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax Federal Income Tax (Fed) Federal Unemployment Tax (FU TA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax Gasoline Tax Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax Inventory Tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax) IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax Luxury Tax Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Service charge Taxes Social Security Tax Road Usage Tax (Truckers) Sales Taxes Recreational Vehicle Tax School Tax State Income Tax State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax Telephone Recurring and Non-recurringCharges Tax Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage ChargeTax Utility Tax Vehicle License Registration Tax Vehicle Sales Tax Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax Workers Compensation Tax A. Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago... And our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt... We had the largest middle class in the world... What happened? |
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
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Kristof
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That clip also goes for Belgium!
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- Gun control means: using BOTH hands!
- Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
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OverMyHead
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Good quote, who is Larry Reed? Internet turns up a comedian, an evangelist, and an attorney.
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
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65 'cuda
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"A paycheck for work performed is a genuine entitlement. A claim against that paycheck by those who would rather vote for a living than work for one is neither genuine nor something to which one is entitled in a free society. Let’s correct the thought patterns that allow the current misuse of the term to undergird the modern welfare state." -- Larry Reed
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eric lavine
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Dont worry Marty, We the people, we'll give you some time to get back on your feet again, cant help ya though with the 2000.00 a month you'll be facing in Cobra because your medical gets cut-off, they just dont want to give anything away...just dont get hurt, or suffer from any illnesse till you get back on your feet...oh, what the fck drain your life savings on in between care....cause we dont fcn care, sht, we got your 401 already. we wanna see you fail, we want every last dime you have....you dont wanna work, you wanna sit on your lazy
ass, i can tell your lazy and want to sponge on the system like i do, I deserve it, im entitled to it |
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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OverMyHead
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We already have a clown in office thanks! |
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
1987 Ski Nautique |
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eric lavine
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I think Ronald McDonald is available....conjur up 20 million for his campaign fund
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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eric lavine
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maybe your convictions are what gets you guy's in all the trouble your (the righties) having
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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Nautiquehunter
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Hey Marty one good thing they just lengthened unemployment benefits again. What is it 3-4 years? Just keep voting Democrat and you will never have to work again?
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86BFN
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Ain't that the truth!
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OverMyHead
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Biting the hand that currently feeds you? (I hope its not to soon for the unemployment ribbing, there but for the grace of......)I liked the song but based on the tempid response I would say there were a lot libs in the audience that didn't.
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
1987 Ski Nautique |
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MartyMabe
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