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Drain Plug Hunting:

The only Juan I am familiar with was a Twin inline 6 MerC I/O with the plug in the Transom.

Three locations to look:

Transom
Engine Room (doubtful)
V-Berth   (up-front, floor access panel, deepest part of the hull)

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I would try some strong acid on the hull once you get within 1/8 inch of it!
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Mahogany actually turns into a nice cherry red with just a little wet sanding.
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Hey Jeff, I agree, the acid wash will knock most of that stuff right off down to the bottom paint...

After that, I wouldn't be so quick about a repaint. It appears there is plenty of it on there to begin with. In looking at some of your pictures, there appears to be maybe layers of paint that came off, and then repainted over? Lots of layers when looking at the pictures of the exhaust area and along the sides near the transom where the green paint meets the cream color.

As you have likely seen, while it can be a fair amount of work, Gel Coat can be brought back, and to some extent, it's been protected with all the paint. In my opinion, if you're up for it, I'd get the paint off and bring it right back. It's easy enough to do a small flat section back at the transom area. You'll be surprise I think...

Keep the pictures coming....

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I'm just afraid of getting down to the gel and finding spider cracks and bubbles all over. And, I think that mahogany SJ in the 1968 brochure looks hideous.
I really would like to restore it to original, but I think it is so far gone that it would be very costly. Seats, engine cover, floor, cuddy, lift rings, gauges, etc. would have to be done.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Mahogany actually turns into a nice cherry red with just a little wet sanding.


When I sanded my console Bruce,it seems to be very "intense". It got on everything even when wet sanding. I never polished it though so I don't know what the final result would be. Seems alot of CC's were that color.
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Give it a try Jeff and see what you get with a small section on the bottom or along the side. If you find the worse, it's not that big a deal to sand it all down correctly and re-shoot it with an appropriate paint.

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Originally posted by ultrarunner ultrarunner wrote:

Originally posted by ny_nautique ny_nautique wrote:

Oh, I also tried to find the hull drain but haven't found one yet. Could it be there isn't one?


It's gotta be there somewhere. maybe still covered up with crap on the transom?

I'd second the power-wash with something more harsh before grinders and such. It'll come off....

I suspect you'll find a center drain when you pull the motor. I haven't been in one of these deep hull nautiques before, so it may not be visible.

Hoping to get down to the Fish Tique later, but that grab might push till Monday..


Deep hull nautique? Aw, c'mon..there is a definite overuse of the word "nautique" in the Correct Craft world. A San Juan is the furthest thing from a Nautique. "Correct Craft, since 1925". Nautique since when, 1961? The PO of my Southwind apparently felt compelled to put a "Nautique" sticker on the side windshield which cracks me up. Since it does not have a hull-side billboard, I guess he thought maybe no one has heard of Correct Craft but everyone has heard of Nautique. I say if you know inboards you know "Correct Craft" and if you don't, who cares??

That San Juan has truly great lines, there must be some real saltwater guys on CCFan that can give you the straight scoop on cleaing it up.






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Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

I would try some strong acid on the hull once you get within 1/8 inch of it!


+1 Find a janitorial supply store. It only works when it is above 60, FYI.
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Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:


That San Juan has truly great lines, there must be some real saltwater guys on CCFan that can give you the straight scoop on cleaing it up.


I'm a long way from salt water,but I do have a saltwater boat sitting on the lift in front of the house- They tape off the waterline and sandblast the bottom. Then new bottom paint is applied. 9 times out of ten the whole boat is painted also,it's just the way of life. Down where my Dad has been boating for over 30 years you don't see any that old either
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Gary, "the just a little" may have been a bit of an understatement. I not sure if dhart, the wet sander in our family would agree with that. This is what wet sanded mahogany looks like. Seems like the majority of '67 and earlier Barracudas were mahogany. I've seen a couple dark blues ones, but most have been mahogany.
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I certainly would not have a problem with a mahagony colored boat in my driveway. That color looks awesome.
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Originally posted by fanofccfan fanofccfan wrote:

I certainly would not have a problem with a mahagony colored boat in my driveway. That color looks awesome.


+1 as it's definately a dated color which adds a certain coolness factor if you ask me.
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I do agree Riley, that does look sweet. I like the white stripes at the water line. If I could get it to look like that I'd be happy.

The 1968 brochure really doesn't do it any justice.
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Originally posted by ny_nautique ny_nautique wrote:

The 1968 brochure really doesn't do it any justice.

The bow rail looks a bit awkward, but otherwise, its beautiful to these eyes! If you arent interested in doing the boat justice, feel free to drop it off in CT and I'll give you exactly what you paid for it, plus 10%!
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Jeff there is always the option of Awlgrip or Alexseal for the sides and the topside then bottom paint you could easily have a super sharp looking boat in no time.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

I not sure if dhart, the wet sander in our family would agree with that.


I'd bet he's still tinted Bruce

That brochure picture is kind of deceiving. You first look at it and think nice boat,then the details start sinking in-- Hey there are 3 in the back and they are not all jambed together! Where is the motorbox,I can't even see it! Then it sinks in how big it really must be
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

That brochure picture is kind of deceiving. Where is the motorbox,I can't even see it!

$5 says theres no mid mounted motorbox in that brochure boat... I bet they used the same Inboard/Outboard version from a few pages later. Note the back to back seats up front.
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Your right Tim but in my defence even with an I/O the hull is so deep that the back seat is still flat!
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

That brochure picture is kind of deceiving. You first look at it and think nice boat,then the details start sinking in-- Hey there are 3 in the back and they are not all jambed together! Where is the motorbox,I can't even see it! Then it sinks in how big it really must be


And one of the three at the stern, on the starboard side, is holding an enormous surfboard. So this was the first dedicated wake surfing boat?
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Originally posted by dwouncmd dwouncmd wrote:

Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

That brochure picture is kind of deceiving. You first look at it and think nice boat,then the details start sinking in-- Hey there are 3 in the back and they are not all jambed together! Where is the motorbox,I can't even see it! Then it sinks in how big it really must be


And one of the three at the stern, on the starboard side, is holding an enormous surfboard. So this was the first dedicated wake surfing boat?

Did you see the '66 brochure?

Gary, cant argue the flat back seat, even with the motor under there somewhere... the boat is BIG! Currently working on the justification to buy one! Ha.
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Good catch Tim. That is the same boat. The front/back seats wouldn't fit with the motor box there.
RE the surfing girl in '66... how does she get back in the boat?
I'm going to have to build a platform and/or install a ladder. That rear railing is pretty tall.
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Originally posted by ny_nautique ny_nautique wrote:

Good catch Tim. That is the same boat. The front/back seats wouldn't fit with the motor box there.
RE the surfing girl in '66... how does she get back in the boat?
I'm going to have to build a platform and/or install a ladder. That rear railing is pretty tall.


Yeah I brought this up like 2 pages back, how the hell do you get back in? haha.

My grandparents own a 23' Cruisers Inc I/O, reminds me of this boat a lot. Except it was wood.

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Good luck with your San Juan. I know they are a great boat having owned one with twin 302's a while back that went to Chesapeake Bay.

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Originally posted by sam57 sam57 wrote:

Good luck with your San Juan. I know they are a great boat having owned one with twin 302's a while back that went to Chesapeake Bay.

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Sam, how was the handling with twins? Time to plane? Top speed?
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Currently working on the justification to buy one! Ha.


I'm already there, want a SJ or Cuddy, preferably with twin 302's!
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

    Currently working on the justification to buy one! Ha.


Got you covered Tim- You already have a Skier you could use for a dinghy
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This thread is going to pass up the Craigslist one by Christmas.
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

This thread is going to pass up the Craigslist one by Christmas.

This is fun! Jeff found a very cool and somewhat rare project, and it's neat to talk about all the details, all the possibilities.

Plus, I think about a dozen of us are experiencing San Juan envy right now!
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